Guild Wars 2

Test.8734:

Terrahero.9358:

If the new GM traits and Healing skills are any indication I wouldn’t worry. The healing skills are generally ignored cause they suck and the GM traits are highly gimmicky. I have not a single character with all the 5 “new” GM traits unlocked.

So you are assuming the new skills and new mechanics to be introduced in HoT will be a failure like the healing skills, and just be ignored by everyone because they suck?

Well, that’s a way to be optimistic.

The alternative’s that they’ll be completely OP and make the base classes lackluster in comparison. There’s only extremes with ANet.

Chaith.8256:

Copestetic.5174:

Given that they’ve stated the new content is the most challenging they’ve ever created for GW2, is this the usher in of a Trinity system?

Don’t kill me over all this speculation, just voicing my concerns.

Haha. Yeah, there’s speculation and then there’s hallucination.

I don’t want to see the Trinity return which is why I’m concerned. The framework’s there ( in theory ) given the new specialization system and content that’s supposedly difficult. Anything to add to the conversation?

butch.8136:

^ There’ll only be one specialization though (someone confirmed that on the afterparty). So you’ll have either ranger or druid (which are kinda 2 specs). Specs are supposedly going to change class mechanics, so we’ll have to see how deep the system goes.

Yeah, going to have to wait this out and see how they do it. The way I keep seeing it played out is not exactly this great thing that they seem to think it is. On one hand you have an updated Ranger, complete with all the old traits, weapons, and utilities along with all the new things they’re adding with the specializations. Then on the other, you have a completely separate class with their own weapons, traits, and utilities that’s going to add more headaches for balancing which, has always been the reasoning behind the low number of skills and such the past couple of years.

Another thing is the overall need to specialize to begin with. I mean, we all pretty much specialize our builds anyways whether we’re PvE, WvW, or PvP. Why completely funnel us into a separate class that’s not as good at doing all the things current builds generally provide ( DPS, CC, Heal ), but excels in say, support more than the other two. Which brings me to question the other professions new specializations. Given that they’ve stated the new content is the most challenging they’ve ever created for GW2, is this the usher in of a Trinity system? Guardian’s still not revealed, but I can only imagine them going two ways: Further into healing power a la Monk, or into defensive support as seem with Paragon.

Don’t kill me over all this speculation, just voicing my concerns.

I still don’t understand the whole specialization thing. Why branch off of the base class to give them new skills/weapons? Why not just add it directly to existing classes instead of creating another?

I’m really looking forward to this. Just to confirm, this is being modeled after a MOBA? Never played one, but from what I hear it’s similar to games like SMITE and what not.

It’s great that we’re getting a new weapon(s), but I’m not too fond of the name changes that seems to come with them or the overall need to “specialize” in the first place. Is the default names of the professions that bad? Bad enough to rename the profession by adding in a new weapon?

Mesmers, Turret Engis, Spirit Rangers, Guardian Spirit Weapons, Minion Masters; all are summon builds. The AI does need to be worked on for Necros though, I agree. Still, we have builds in the game already.

Spoj The Second.7680:

Im not saying change it for this game. Im just commenting on how the difficulty of games in general has dropped considerably over the years and its considered the norm now. Games used to be about challenge. People didnt complain about games being too difficult back then as it was normal to force players to improve.

Two things: 9-5 Dads trying to relive their Super Nintendo days, and the 90’s kids.

Sariel V.7024:

Copestetic.5174:

Just out of curiosity ANet, what was wrong with GW1’s loot system? In GW1, you ran specific content for the skins you wanted. Yes, there was RNG, but at the same time, you made plenty of gold doing the runs ( Fissure of Woe, Underworld, Dungeons, etc ) that you’d be able to buy whatever it is you were after in a few days, or a week or two.

There is no effective difference between the system you describe and GW2’s as it currently stands.

You’re out of your mind. If I took a week off and no-lifed GW1 FoWSC, I’d walk away with at minimum, Chaos Gloves with it being more likely that you could afford a Tormented Shield, a high req. Voltaic Spear and a nice Black finish to all of your crap. That’s not counting salvageables, decent vendor prices on trash loot, decent drops from trash, unidentified Rares to sell to players, or good drops from the Chest of Woe. If I took a week off to do the same with GW2, I’d probably shoot myself at the end of the week after opening a couple thousand of bags, only to make what, 500g after everything’s salvaged and sold on TP? Sweet, I can snag myself a cheap Precurser that I don’t really want, or maybe a couple of Black Lion weapon skins. If that’s what you just took a week off of work and played 8-12 hours a day to get, great. What you’ve earned in GW2 after that week is not nearly as significant as what it was in GW1 when it comes to getting the things you feel you “need” to complete your character.

Sariel V.7024:

Run specific content for skins? Maybe if you’re counting Tormented weapons, or throwing yourself at a boss over and over again in the hopes of getting its green. Just try to get a max rare Storm Bow, or Chaos Axe, or Golden Phoenix Sword, or even a max Katana or Tetsubo. Even Elemental Swords were hyperrare until someone figured out a boss you could farm for them. And Guild Wars Guru auction prices for dungeon skins were just as bad as Legendaries are today.

Uh, Underworld, FoW, Urgoz, Bogroots, Slavers…All ( and many more ) had specific drops that could only be got there, the Zaishen Chest, or from Hall of Heroes chest. Keeping these items locked behind content kept the demand high, and prices worth the effort of trying to score one. That’s where I think the loot system fails in GW2. Instead of spreading skins that players would think is “cool”, across its content; they just stuff it all into these stupid bags that attributes to the rest of their content being completely ignored because it’s deemed less profitable which, is hardly any ‘real’ profit to begin with since you’re dealing with Inception levels of RNG.

Just out of curiosity ANet, what was wrong with GW1’s loot system? In GW1, you ran specific content for the skins you wanted. Yes, there was RNG, but at the same time, you made plenty of gold doing the runs ( Fissure of Woe, Underworld, Dungeons, etc ) that you’d be able to buy whatever it is you were after in a few days, or a week or two. You could see yourself getting toward the item you wanted with each Vanquish you did, each Zaishen Key you sold, or each Ecto you bought. In GW2? You spend all your time chasing some kitten with a blue tag getting all these sweet exotic bags. And affter you finally choose to open them all the best drop you get is a kitten Cobalt, and 10 stacks of freaking Mithral and that leather crap that no one wants that I don’t even know the kitten name of.

What I’d personally like to see, is the return of how it was in GW1. Take that Cobalt, and stick it in a Dungeon path as a rare drop. Matter of fact, take 99% of that crap out of Champion Bags that’s named ( Cobalt, Shiverstone, Entropy, Anura, etc. ) and put it in Dungeons, WvW Honor Vendors, or rare drops from sPvP loot boxes. And I don’t mean put them all in one darn Champion Bag. Spread them out, like Entropy can only be got in a specific Dungeon path or Anura can only be got for 10,000 Honor Badges or something like that.

Nevermind lol. I’ve typed and deleted so many times, I’m tired of looking at this page. GW2’s loot system sucks. That is all, please fix.

Random Weird Guy.3528:

Not sure if trolling, or highly misinformed…

“best armor bonus” – maybe best base bonus, but no protection uptime and lowest number of evades and teleports
“passive immune against conditions” – For like 8 seconds out of 60.
“passive god mod” – 4 seconds out of 60…
“8+ sec CC AOE with hammer” – all of which are extremely easy to dodge
“passive 100% critical chance” – For 3 hits on weapon swap, the worst of which is esy to dodge
“and best one hit damage” – Clearly you haven’t played against a d/p thief, s/f ele, shatter mesmer, etc…
“can run away like no other” – This is a joke right? They have like the lowest mobility in the game unless you run with sword or GS (and it looks like you’re talking about hambow)
“best healing skill of the game” – Healing turret combo is higher burst, d/d eles have higher sustained healing.

Since we’re being critical:

“maybe best base bonus, but no protection uptime and lowest number of evades and teleports”

A lot of Warrior builds can maintain a high uptime of Vigor, and some permanently. My build can keep at least 18 seconds of 100% Endurance regen. That’s a significant number of evades I have over someone with little-to-none.

“For like 8 seconds out of 60.”

Or 10 seconds. Then count the Adrenaline gained from Berserker’s Stance, which clears another three. Shouts to remove a few, and Warhorn as well. We have some pretty decent cleanse options depending on the build.

“4 seconds out of 60…”

5 Traited for a good number of builds. Most Warriors I see in the Arenas that aren’t Hambows Trait Defy Pain for another 5 seconds. So that’s 10 seconds out of 60 that we’re in “God-mode” as far as damage is concerned. We could also be immune to Conditions, and have Stability for the same amount of time.

“all of which are extremely easy to dodge”

In a 1v1, sure. A 2v2 on mid node in Foefire? Sure. In a team fight where you’re having to kite and dodge others? Not really, unless they themselves have a large access to Vigor, Blinds, and Blocks.

“This is a joke right? They have like the lowest mobility in the game unless you run with sword or GS (and it looks like you’re talking about hambow)”

If a Hambow’s following Metabattle ( and common sense ), they’re taking Warrior’s Sprint. Perma 25% IMS, along with 8+ seconds of Swiftness from Balanced Stance, and 25+ from Signet of Rage. Couple that with having access to Vigor, a sword of one flavor or another, and we can get out of some sticky situations. Even with Hambow, if a Warrior’s force to kite a player or two, skill 3 Cripples, 4 provides Knockback, a single-target Knockdown, and an AoE Stun. Then of course, is skill 5 for Longbow to help put some distance between the players.

jokke.6239:

ProtoGunner.4953:

I dislike MMOs without tab targetting. No, this simply doens’t fit my playstyle. If I want to have something like this, I can go play God of War or DMC.

You are gonna hate the future.

Pretty much this. I’ve seen very few games recently ( MMO related at least ) that include Tab-targetting. The next ‘big’ one I know of is Bless, but from what I’ve recently read, they’ve completely overhauled the combat system to include dodging, and a more action-like approach versus the traditional Tab-target flavor.

shox.3971:

If it is successful, explain why TERA dropped its subscription based format for a completely free to play model?

No. You have the internet. You do it.

Played GW1 a few days after Factions released until 2012. Picked-up GW2 in early 2013 hoping to have as much fun as I had in GW1.

Trixie.7614:

Copestetic.5174:

Trixie.7614:

You should go play an FPS game

Crosshairs=FPS?

Ever heard of TERA?

No, but I can figure how successful the game is now if I never even heard of it.

It was pretty successful, and still has a stable population across multiple servers. It also recently just launched an expansion last month I believe.

Trixie.7614:

You should go play an FPS game

Crosshairs=FPS?

Ever heard of TERA?

I’m now up to a whopping 3 events, and have got 2 Coat boxes. My MF is only 122% base if that’s a factor. Frankly, I didn’t even want them, and am doing these events mainly for the Mini Mordrem Taragriff.

Gabby.3205:

Arewn.2368:

It would have made much more sense if the airstrike was used to cut-off/eliminate the mordrem reinforcements (those that had not yet entered the base), and then our job would have been to clean up the remaining mordrem in the base, then declare victory.

Not only would there be no senseless “oh look, we survived the bombardment we target at our own troops”, but it also would have made Trahearn thanking us feel a lot more satisfying.
“Thanks, you did a grunt’s job and carried that torch! you saved the day!” doesn’t feel like a very good reason for all the appreciation and credit we received for the victory.

Trahearne literally thanks the player for every little thing. ALL THE TIME.
So many of his dialogues have at least one “Thank you”. “Thanks to you” or “We/I couldn’t have done it without you” that I kinda expect him to do that, now.

Likely due to all the kittening people did about how they’re not the center of attention through the Personal Story.

I get tired of hearing all that stuff.

Becka Williams.4978:

2 guildies got a box on THEIR FIRST TRY. meanwhile, 6 tries, no box. Why does this game hate me so much?

I got mine on my first try as well, and I could careless about the skin. What I want is that Mini Mordrem Teragriff. That thing’s sexy.

Lazaar.9123:

I wouldn’t think so, Mursaat had been very hostile for a long time.

Mursaat were in between a rock and a hard place. It was either act, or lay down and die.

Aside from that, going to have to go with Mursaat as well. Though the headpiece lends some credence to the Seer, the dangly things give it away as seen in Mursaat concept art.

I just went and did the ‘new’ hearts there yesterday or the day before. One of them is right outside of the Citadel, where the cow Dynamic Event is, and the other is a little north of there involving Skritt.

DeceiverX.8361:

Classes would have to be free, per the PvP problems, as that could effectively allow for people to pay for the new class and thus have an advantage over all non-paying players as they would not have the experience to learn the class and counter it properly.

In which case all you’re really left with is races, which if you’re gonna put everything else out there for free, you may as well avoid the PR nightmare and just release it all for free.

There’s no such thing as YouTube? We both know there’s going to be a ton of videos here, there, and everywhere if a new profession is introduced. I’m half-way confident one of them will detail their skills and such. People also have the forums, Reddit, their friends, Google, guildies, and duels to learn their ( expansion based class ) counters.

I largely have 0 issues with locking content like a new profession or race behind a pay wall due to GW1. I couldn’t play a Ritualist if I only had Prophecies. Assuming the rest of the content is free, that’s like getting all of Factions minus Ritualist and Assassin. That’s a pretty good deal.

Donari.5237:

I asked a while back but I think people didn’t see it as the thread moves so fast: How does one see this panel on live stream? Is there a PAX payment to make, or will this be on ANet’s Twitch?

They’ll probably announce the stream as we get closer to PAX. Still got some time.

Xander.9024:

Copestetic.5174:

Nothing stays dead in GW2, Konig. And Supernatural.

as far as SPN goes, Adam says hi.

Died, and came back. And died again.

Roundabout.1752:

Guild Halls in GW1 made sense because you belonged to 1 Guild not up to 5 just saying it seems kinda pointless for GW2

And you could have an Alliance with other Guilds, and go to their Guild Halls.

What’s the difference?

Wow, nice necro.

But, here’s what all classes feel like in GW2:

Seabreeze.8437:

I had so much fun playing the Paragon in Nightfall, it would be great to bring something like that back to GW2. I stand by my idea for it being an elementalist throwing weapon so they can have another physical-type weapon, but it would also be very cool to see how other classes handle said weapon too!

Paragon was a great class that was underused in most content, but I loved the class. It was my first ( and only ) toon that got Legendary Survivor pre-update that let you restart the title track after you had died. Imbagon4ever

Zoso.8279:

Yeah lore explains it but still I like paragon so ill ask to see it again. Warriors using ranged as much or more then melee for me makes 0 sense.

Lore explains what happens to Paragons in Tyria. Seeing how they originated in Elona, the profession could very well still be used in those parts.

I’d personally like them to return as they were in GW1. Since water combat’s a thing of the past and isn’t being worked on, I think this would be an awesome way to spice a few things up whether one-handed or two. Might have to tweak them a little, though.

Jade Arkadian.9280:

Copestetic.5174:

Jade Arkadian.9280:

And do you really that will do any good? The answer is obviously No. You will be likely kittened back, blocked and/or even reported for insults if you really offended someone, and being reported again just to double check. Of course, nothing will change for you and the other player.

You can’t say that it won’t do any good, when criticism is a great motivational tool for improvement.

That’s only true for constructive criticism.
Allow me to tell you that saying things like “OMG! Noob team! Please kill our lord!”, “Go back to PvE”, “Our mesmer is a noob” followed by some rants of your choice is far away from being constructive.
I hope you were not thinking about theses as “motivational tools” since they look pretty much insults to me.

But you ‘can’ use that as a motivation to get better unless it’s just a straight troll saying those things. The internet is filled with a ton of good videos, guides, builds, and strategies to help players get better at PvP ( and anything else for that matter ). And guess how simple it is? Head to Google.

There’s very few reasons people should be just God-awful, and practically know nothing in sPvP other than being willfully ignorant because “It’s a game, and I’ll play how I want! kitten the other people!”. While you call people who verbally abuse players “toxic”, I call those that simply don’t care enough to do some research and, get a couple of games under their belt before they head to Ranked Arena, toxic. Why? Because that ONE person ruins the experience of the other FOUR players who may know how to play or, not be as horrible to where they’re contributing something other than a free kill and a decap.

Jade Arkadian.9280:

And do you really that will do any good? The answer is obviously No. You will be likely kittened back, blocked and/or even reported for insults if you really offended someone, and being reported again just to double check. Of course, nothing will change for you and the other player.

You can’t say that it won’t do any good, when criticism is a great motivational tool for improvement.

I think kitten talking, and playing the blame game is one of the things you’re never going to change in a PvP setting.

I’d have to go with “The Ugly Stick”, only because I can’t dye it. I still like to beat people with it in sPvP, though.

GussJr.1643:

Rurik has nothing to do with the ascension runes…but he does tie in to another part of the story…I know I am repeating myself…but it would make more sense if it was Rurik and not the Ghostly Hero because Rytlock has Rurik’s sword…and for 2+ years, we have had no idea how it came to be in his possesion.

Then Rytlock dissappears…and now we possibly have a ghost that could be Rurick…just my thoughts though.

Yeah, except Rytlock hasn’t had anything to do with LS since he took a trip down south. The Ghostly Hero however, makes a little more sense given what we’ve seen in the trailer. Maybe he’ll have some information about Rytlock, though.

lordkrall.7241:

Rebound.3409:

Looks like another cliffhanger

Based on a minute-long teaser? Really?

I have a feeling it will be a cliffhanger as well.

Personally, I have this feel that what they announce at PAX will be a mini-expansion on the LS. We’ll get a couple of new zones to traverse and explore while ultimately heading to Magus Falls to kill Moredremoth. Probably see some of those features that were ‘suppose’ to happen at earlier dates, maybe a set-up for LS3, and possibly that new PvP map/game mode.

I don’t know. This makes the most sense to me as to what’s about to happen regarding the storyline, and PAX.

Nothing stays dead in GW2, Konig. And Supernatural.

nightwulf.1986:

gusy.5216:

It is more like Ghostly Hero

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ghostly_Hero_

I think technically, lordkrall still hit the mark on the head.

lordkrall.7241:

The Ghost looks more like Turai Ossa than Rurik I would say.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Turai_Ossa

“This Ghostly Hero was once Turai Ossa.”

But you know, which is more accurate? Poobadoo or the ghost of poobadoo?……….note to self, make 70’s spinoff entitled “The 13 Ghosts of Poobadoo”.

I doubt he was referring to lordkrall’s post. More like the second one. Out of the two, which one seems more unlikely the ghost is…?

gusy.5216:

It is more like Ghostly Hero

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ghostly_Hero_

Exactly what I thought as soon as I saw him.

#GW1knowledge

Had a Naga going on a year now, no issues so far. Still like the little emblem light. Ended up buying a keyboard and headset from them as well because I enjoyed the mouse.

ZickieL.8917:

Hello everyone,
I just got this game today as a gift from my step bro, I was wondering if it’s not late for me to start playing? I saw some gameplay on youtube and it was awesome but I’m worried if there will be less people playing by now, thou I don’t want to waste this gift so I’ll still try it out.

Nice meeting everyone.

You’ll wish there was less people playing/wondering why there’s so many online on a Monday morning, when you get to Tequatal or other world boss spawns. There’s tons of people playing the game though, expect even more on the 13th and after PAX.

Only ‘challenging’ thing in Kessex Hills, and it needs toned down.

DarcShriek.5829:

lordkrall.7241:

I am still not sure the Pact will actually survive the attack on Mordemoth ^^

I think it could go either way myself. I’d like to see Trahearne survive and get hit with a big case of survivors guilt.

And then have him turn around, go Nightmare, and become the next big baddie? No thanks. lol

Samuli.7852:

Imperios.2543:

Filaha.1678:

male counterpart.

Weren’t corsets, like, unisex?

I would actually love to see a norn male or a charr wearing one

If Marilyn Manson could rock one, a Charr could too.

I bet we fight it on a ship like Leviathan FFXIV.

I personally hope Kralkatorrik, just because we might be heading to the Crystal Desert. That, and the Pact were supposedly going for him before Mordremoth showed up.

Guild Halls and GvG is enough for me. If that’s what’s being announced, great.

I really hope we’re not going to space, dabble in other universes ( aside from those currently known from GW1 and 2 ), and travel back and forward in time.

Mental Paradox.3845:

I like your analysis, Drax. As much as I would love to see Ascalon restored to former glory, perhaps we’re better off without the Charr as enemies.

Lies!

Wish they’d just make underwater weapons usable on land. Got my Voltaic spear ready.

Nevermind. Fun thread’s over now that the historian came in.