Guild Wars 2

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I’m not sure about what do you mean with this thread. But that’s propably me?

Ayestes.1273:

Every class has been making bug reports on bugs for 7 months. I agree it’s a real issue. I’m merely pointing out that the way we present the issue should be the actual issue, and not via a complaint we don’t get enough attention.

I want the same things you want. I want our stuff fixed. I don’t want to ignore or report you, I want to convince you to do things in a more productive manner. The way it’s done now is childlike, likely unintentionally done so, and I want to correct that.

The first three months or so, things were handled in a decent way. People just posted on teh bug report thread, or created a topic about a bug. But 7 months later things still are not as they should be functioning. I can understand the annoyed attitude of the community.

And I’m just happy we stopped swearing and produce dev hate threads. Instead there are made many jokes Xd.

There is only one reaction for this: WTF

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Amadeus.5687:

I don’t have problems in PvE either, my support build is still awesome, true I miss my free Super Elixir from Kit Refinement, but I’m still basking out a ton of AoE healing and I boosted my damage a bit in that build now I don’t need the Kit Refinement (which I still hope they are removing the shared CD on)

I can dish out one kitten of damage with my Grenade kit and the 15-20 stakcs of Vul. You can stack with most Nade builds make your DPS sky rocket! So we still got stuff doing!
tPvP? still wating for reports from those players! I don’t do that myself!

The builds you guys make are really good! But saying we are fine is uncorrect imho. Do you guys ever use gadgets in your builds? No. You make really great builds, but the engineer only has 2 skill-lines to pick from:
- Elixers
- Kits
You’ll hardly see anyone using gadgets/turrets in WvW for example. The fact that half of our skills are NOT USED by the community speaks for itself don’t you think? These skills are just bad.

Seras.5702:

I’m excited that the recent patch had so much Engineer attention. They fixed bugs that needed to be fixed. They buffed turrets (which everyone was whining about) yet everyone seems to annoyed by the new KR to be grateful for. 50-100% buff to a lot of turret related aspects and players are still complaining that they’re rubbish.

I’m happy to see so much attention aswell. Too bad their attention is not given enough or given to the wrong things. Did you hear ANYONE complain about the KR trait? Yes you heard ’m complain about 100nades→ just give KR for GK another ability. Why would they add a 20s global CD? Why?!

And the turret buffs were nice, but not nice enough. Turrets still get hammered in WvW, and somewhat in PvP, making them bad choices in combat.

There are literaly thousands of ideas, suggestions and options the community offered here. Unfortunately the devs don’t see them.

But your ideas are good ^^!

Let’s get noticed!

No.
1. I want to be “the master of mechanical mayhem” to quote Anet. Too bad I’m not, no instead they break down every build the community finds and pingeon holl our options into P/P. Is there a VIABLE rifle build in WvW? I don’t think so.

2. Just why? What was the reason kit refinment had to be nerfed? Ok yes, 100nades burst were brutal, but why does thta justify the 20s global CD? Dubbel u T F?

3. We still are kidnda buggy and have serious amounts of useless skills. We still have to deal with broken traits. And the stupid jump shot glitch. Not even talking about the useless gadgets and (still useless) turrets. Wanna play without (tool)kit?→ you’re handicapping yourself.

4. Pistol main attack damage. That’s all I need to say about this.

I tried to understand them aswell. Why are they doing this? Just.. Why? I can’t find any good reason.

Ergo: I do not know why they do this.

Instead of toolbelt? I really like the idea, but its execution will be much harder and it might be kind of OP if we have 2 turrets always at our disposale. Imagine P/P with a toolkit, elixer S, net turret, rifle turret and an elite?→ ghell engineers would own!

google.3709:

Halcyon.7352:

google.3709:

We lost kit Refinement AND! 2 condition removers!! and gain nothing in return :S

best thing about the whole update was having veil taken out elixir U.. thats it. turrets are still terrible :S

This. And bug fixes (that shoulda been done months ago.)

^ yah :P, but considering we’re the buggiest class in the game, i dont consider those a pro lol!

God, my heart loves engi but my brain is telling me “stop being dumb, go play mesmer”

The exact same thing! Ghell, but my engi is just soooo much fun. But effective? No.

Scope is still bugged! → why?!
deployable turretsnis still bugged for flame turret! → why?!

Kit refinment got a rework! → why?! Honestly, why did they do this? I can understand getting a new GK ability since the 100nades burst was just brutal. But why does the GK ability chance had to drag the whole KR trait in agony? don’t tell me anything else, KR.. Is.. useless.

Turrets got buffed!→ ok something good right here. Sadly :’), turrets are still an unfair option. They just not as effective as P/P with HGH confusion builds.

Flamethrower still isn’t worth a skill slot in WvW or PvP→ why?

Basically KR is just useless, except you’re using it on a single kit bomb…

I only have 1 question: Why?

I could see the grenade kr getting changed, as it’s burst possibilities were insane. But this new effects are just… Useless…

Amadeus.5687:

Zenguy.6421:

And it seems to be the only burst Eng build . . . so figure out how to avoid it.

You haven’t tried a Confusion burst Engineer then! You can look forward to my next Roaming movie showing some serious confusion burst in that case!

Indeed. Watch out for my prybar. normally this thing gives you about 10 broken bones, but this one ‘just’ confuses you.

The thing i like about this build is the 70 extra trait points you can spend!

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/engineer/Hobo-Sacks-A-Terrible-Fashion-Statement/first#post1538097

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/engineer/Hobo-Sacks-A-Terrible-Fashion-Statement/first#post1538097

Xd

I am surprised there are still people thinking about this trait. I totaly forgot it is there and I never used it and propably never will unless it gets a rework.

Kais’ ideas seem really good I hope a dev reads it.

I absolutely agree. Main attack with power wrench makes it an excellent cripple, together with aoe cripple from box of nails.

Prybar, HALLELUJHA! 2k crit damage and 5 stacks of confusion! on uterly low CD?! WhaT?!
gearshield! A 3 second block, on 16 seconds CD!? WHAT!?

magnet “we all know how great it is to pull a stupid rifle warrior of a wall in WvW” to quote one of my fellow NERF engineers (can’t remember who stated this).

But seriously, what were the devs thinking? The buff was great, but it is completely narrowing my build options down. It’s currently kind of stupid NOT to use toolkit, it’s just to OP.

everything else feels just crap now, making it even more clear that our class needs tweaking.

And to be honest, you will find literally zero people who do not activate their skills.
It’s like a reflex, if you are low on health you’ll be smashing the 6 key automatically! Same thing with seeing a (“No better lunch, then engineer for lunch” as one of my guildmates once said..) engineer: they rapidaly spam their attacks only to find themselves dead on the ground!

Confusion is a condition. Extra crit damage is nice, but in these builds confusion is your main damage source. → go with condition damage, no need to get more crit damage.

Lebannen.8325:

amiable.4823:

The funny thing about engineer “versatility” is that most of decent the engi builds fall into the “one-trick” pony category (100nades, the new confusion builds, static discharge, Tankcat). This is not to say these builds are easy to play, quite the contrary most folks need to play extremely well to execute their strategy, but in the end if the opponent dodges or recognize the “trick” there is little the Engineer can do to counter.

1) If you are looking to forums for stupidly named builds. Then you really shouldnt play the engineer.

2) If you are unable to do research on your own, to design a build, trait and equipment to fit your playstyle and reaction time. You shouldnt play an engineer.

3) If you rely on youtube to teach you how to play a class. Then you need to play some easy game like Call of Duty.

1) It seems YOU don’t like the names. Which is an opinion, I for example like them

2) It seems YOU have the great power to see what kind of player someone is just by reading his random posts on a forum and then burn him in a nasty way for noe reason. There are better ways to use your powers.

3) If you use this way of discussing, I will not reacte serious, or give an serious argument.

Lebannen.8325:

Ferum Flamebender.5910:

^. Agree. And PLEASE don’t start the: ‘does engi suck or doesn’t it’ discussion. That has been discussed about since release!

But try to run the new available builds some great engineer created like Stupid named build or failBUILD, those builds really donate badges to your enemies in wvw

Fixed for accuracy

Lol? I guess someone was having a bad time .. or something?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/engineer/The-Demented-Engineer-WvW-Build/first#post1563079

Kardiamond’s demented engineer

Yes everybody has this problem. It’s a bug, I guess we need to wait 3 months untill it gets fixed.

Beorn Saxon.4762:

Devs already answered this before the game launched.

They said they will do expansions with GW2. They did not like how GW1 campaigns split the player base.

Really weird. There were absolutly NO people who only had 1 campaign. You bought the first and the game sucked you in and the day after you had the rest of the games. Why limit yourself to a small amount of skills (a HUGE disadvatage in PvP). People didn’t they. Almost everyone had just every campaign.

The damage tax is supposed to make up for us being highly versitile. Except that our kits are really crap if you don’t spec for them. Every seen a effective 100nades build without grenadier trait? Or a bomb kit user without short fused and the longer radius? No. You won’t find them.

Got dam engineer community! You are kitten my bank account, buying those sigils and runes, armor sets and all this respeccing!

But anyway, going to test it, and I’ll let you know the results.

Playing WvW the other day on the Eternal battlegrounds, I had a hard time targeting an Asura in a zerg. A few moments later a charr warrior is not that hard (as in: almost hard to not target a raging charr warrior on your screen) to target.

Just give it a thought. Arenanet states no race has influence on how good/bad a player is. But Asura are (especially when you make ’m as small as possible) horribliy hard to target in this fast combat and rumbeling battles!

what do you guys think?

^. Agree. And PLEASE don’t start the: ‘does engi suck or doesn’t it’ discussion. That has been discussed about since release!

But try to run the new available builds some great engineer created like demented engineer or tankCAT, those builds really kick kitten

This is very true. I’m doing my dailies in low level areas, and ended up with level 10 exotics -.-. Samething with world completion. I already finished it, but dam I sold some low level shot…

As cool as Teldo his action is (yes. I am not afraid to declear this a bucket list worthy activity), the bomb kit is just to unreliable for me. Enemies avoid my concusion bomb aswell as the big Ol bomb.
Let’s not argue about this, I’m just not the engineer to use bombkit. But striping the bombkit saves up trait points (as the 20 explosives are exclusive used for BK) and opens up lots of new possibilities

I gave my own twist to your build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fcAQJAqKlspicnvi6lkY0jOL6NDSRe1roCV+TB2C;TgAKtMaJ0yqlTLpWDRmLA

P/P or P/S
I can’t decide which one to go. Icendiary ammo trait makes up a bit for blowtorch, and shield gives some extra CC and an extra stun.

skills
Elixer H→ just becuase I’m to clumsy to use medkit. But togehter with 409 (see last skill) ectra condi removal.
Toolkit→ your story
Elixir S→ your story.
????→ this. Something happend I normally never have. I just.. don’t need this skills slot. I was thinking about getting elixer B and put 10 more points in elixirs for 409 instead of adrenal implant, but that’s it. Can’t really think of anything else. You guys might have some suggestions?

Traits:

10 points in explosives, for small Condi duration buff/power buff and the incendiary ammo for extra burning
20 points in firearms. No changes here.
10 points in elixirs. No changes here.
30 points in tools. Here too speedy kits (is there any engineer NOT using it?), and power wrenge (to cripple running enemies), but here’s the surprise as grandmaster trait adrenal implant, which basically is perma vigor. I tested it for a bit and hallelujah with full adventurer you are dodging complete marathons!

Hope you like the twist. Your build is really superb! Pulling people out of the zerg and confusing them to death!

Hmm never noticed it really, but that might be because I’m playing engi since release.

EDIT: I was confused about what was IA either. Some people just come up with short terms for everything.

How about an elite kit? Although the portal (FTD) sounds really nice, I must admit a elite sniper kit would be awesome ^^.

Honestly every single thread, ends up in a discussion ‘does engineer suck or not?’.

+1

Not much more to say.

SilverWF.4789:

Maybe you need to read descriptions of traits, not just it’s names?

Yes. I aswell find the raging justified.

But we don’t really have a good stability option. The only one is throw elixir S, but again we have to be luxky to get it, because you know.. RNG makes it ‘fun’…

I noticed rifle barrel being… weird? It might be bugged or something, or did they mentioned this? Because it has less range now. Could somebody link me the notes where they said this?
It’s just really vague.

You might want to use the tankCAT build. Just give it a search in the forums.

DDog.4350:

PvP perspective:
I have been playing a lot of engineer the last couple of weeks. This was the last class i tried because everybody said it was the weakest. They were so wrong. Engineer has one of the better elite skills and can use kits, which replace your first 5 skills with different skills. In most builds you will run with a lot of different skills so pulling off a combo can be hard.

We have good elites? Where? Did I missed something?

Supply crate is good, yes. But mortar SUCKS, it’s highly situationel, you might use it 1 time in WvW standing on a wall, but even a striketeam will smash it to the ground in 10 seconds.
Elixir X is just bad. We have to rely on the RNG (but hey ’it’s fun’ right?).

And they still didn’t fix the Flamethrowers missing isuess!! Grrr.

lol our buffs, are kind of worthless (except prybar and super elixer)…
and Kit refinment gets nerfed I used 2/3 kits.. including toolkit and flamethrower..

aswell is Scope trait…

We aren’t..
Some useless buffs? ‘flamejet now does 10% more damage to burning foes’
WHat THE kitten?! WE GOT 2 BROKEN TRAITS!?> and you do this!.
and YOU NERF KIT REFINMENT ASWEL!><@Afna2i
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Pro: extra condi removal

Con: don’t ise it, it sucks. It’s main attack can’t stack bleeding or vunerability at all, it’s damage is really bad, fumigate doesn’t work that well, etc.

On the engineer forum, the same thing gets posted over and over. Trust me, your class is not the only ‘forgotten’ one.

infrequentia.3465:

vespers.1759:

Skamlic.8041:

You are viewing balancing only from PvP point of view. If they buff all of them together, they would have to buff PvE difficultly too. 90% of balance they did so far, they nerfed something and buffed another thing in one proffesion.

Most people use similar build, because it is “the best”. By nerfing & buffing together they can make more viable builds to play with.

the classes that are terrible at PVE are the same ones that are terrible at PVP.

the exception is the thief, who is the god of PVP but only mediocre at PVE (they still have the potential to beat the “screwed 3”.

the tiers seem to go:

1. thief, ele, mesmer
2. warrior, guardian
4. ranger, engi, necro

the gap between the first tier and the 3rd tier is mind bogglingly vast.

oO some rated necro and ranger even BELOW wars,
wars are 1 of the worst pvp classes. same goes to thiefs but people still think back stab combo is op therefor the class should be a t1 class

Lol never played an engineer did you? Saying a warrior is bad in PvP.. Yea right…
And thief sucks at PvP too?!

Younreally never played engineer or necro

I live in the Netherlands. I was thinking about buying some gems, and checked the internet for the new gemcards they are selling and found out they cost 30,- euros! That is about 40,- dollars! For 2000 gems!

Again, europe gets ripped off.

4vs4 arenas or a random arena like in gw1 with 4vs 4

Check out the tankCAT thread. I use it as a tanky build and it gets the job done very, very well.

The norn ones UTERLY SUCK.
Eating an egg, giving you 2 boons?

Go home Anet. Your drunk.