i would like to see a shatter build able to compete with thief :Q_
btw happy the braindead aoeinvulneromancer has gone.
added a small thing you forgot
Mesmer is still good, only a bad player who doesn’t understand them would think they are gonna be terrible once that patch hits. And what Lythoc says is spot on.
i highly doubt it.
I main a thief, but alt on a mesmer.
the thing i find most comforting is that the amount of bad thieves that will come out of this is going to be too darn high and will be a nice, easy… obvious kill.
in theory, we should have nothing to worry about. at all.
Good thieves however…
Even a Thief will have to worry about other thieves, mesmers can still deal mega damage and like i said on another post.
the mes+thief pain train is gonna be a thing again.
And that makes me happy.
A thief that loses to a shatter mesmer is terrible. Period. Sorry.
Thief’s defense is just capable of neutralizing half of our damage output simply because we either require a target or it makes our clones stand as still as frozen statue, while his stealth outlast ours.
I’m not saying we will be necessarily fodder, but claiming that thief dying to shatter is terrible while they are our natural counter… well I can’t agree.pepsi… you do realize that a thief’s stealth is SUPPOSED TO OUTLAST A MESMERS STEALTH!! stealthing is a big part of thief you aren’t supposed to outstealth them! All this QQing coming for mesmers complaining about thief are people who obviously don’t understand mesmer and/or thief
Spartan… you do realize you failed to COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND MY POST??
See, I can use the same writing format, how nice
Tell me one thing? Where did you feel like I QQed? Because my QQ doesn’t look like this.
You can even go back to my post history, I QQed about burning, Anet’s balancing and the league system, most of all (maybe a few more other thing).
My QQ is emotional whining that I usually do moments after being wiped by what I QQed about and left with a strong feeling of unfairness and the need to vent my anger, which I do on the forums…
This isn’t QQ, this is personal observation that I’ll be so kind as to put in other words just for you.
I also realizes that I simply reinforced “thief shouldn’t die to shatter”.
Well, while I can agree that thief is the A+ predator of mesmer, I should also add that a thief taken by surprise will die equally fast by a mesmer than a mesmer taken by surprise by a thief.
The first to spot the other is the first to kill. A shatter in the face really doesn’t feel good, despite MB’s nerf.
Anyway, Spartan, let me clarify everything for you since you missed my point on every possible angle:
I never said that thief’s stealth wasn’t supposed to outlast mesmer’s. I simply pointed out that thief is a natural predator to mesmer because his ability to stealth for longer than us (his main defense ability) neutralized most of our offensive abilities, whereas ours own def didn’t cancel his at the same point because it’s not nearly as reliable on targeting and visible target, while our own stealth is not as efficient as theirs, which means that we can’t outplay them on the same field.
Moreover, thief and mesmer grossly fill the same role : +1 fighter/roamer.
Yet, despite our own portal, thief can do this job better and more efficiently than mesmer can, primarily because his mobility excess that of mesmer, just like his capability to engage/disengage fight at will is equal or greater than that of mesmer despite the latter own stealth, teleports and C.C skills.
So yeah, I’d appreciate you not falling into personal retaliation simply because you feel the need to jump at anyone’s throat who dare imply any single form of Thief vs. Mesmer while not even bothering to actually comprehend or even read said post properly.
The only thing you probably saw during your sifting was: “while his stealth outlast ours.” and immediately came to a conclusion that I was a miserable keyboard warrior who doesn’t know jack kitten about both class she complained about
Sorry, I just have 3k hours on my mesmer and while my own knowledge of thief is slightly lacking on a balance level, I know enough to know basic things such as “he’s the annoying bugger who use stealth as both offense and defense. He’s also the annoying class that dare outpe rform mesmer on its roaming class while being its natural predator due to his defense canceling our own offense and making us incredibly vulnerable all the while to his attack.”
I’ll also put /s just to make sure you don’t take my last 4 lines literally and only focus on this to lash at me again on my miscomprehension of two classes and apparent QQing.
Have a nice day, I hope I made my lol QQ clear enough