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Dodge white grenades

Yet necro is still the best condition dueling class.

U ned skilz

Evan Lesh.3295:

Ayrilana.1396:

Is that a soda can on the bottom left of the picture?

Yeah that soda can is pretty cool, I guess. But look at that UI!

So what? you will be able to choose the map you want or something like that?

dominik.9721:

It is a curcular argument.

So for what reason you bring a Ranger, a Mesmer, a guardian and an engineer?

At the same way you bring a warrior only because of banners, you’ll bring a Mesmer only because of his portal and a ranger only because of his spirit and his spotter trait.

The only classes you won’t bring just because of their group support are elementalists and thiefs.

Mesmer also bring projectil reflection and Mass stealth, pull and boon strip.
engineer also has team stealth, pull and higher damage with team healing abilities and water field.

The Impale debuff should last longer on enemy in order to do some Rip play.
The torments can still be applied within 4 seconds, but the imaple debuff it’self should last longer. i suggest between 8-10 seconds.

Right now, all you do is impale, no one ever touch the Rip.
The benefit from fully applied impale is too great compared to Rip, impale debuff is too short and it’s more simple game play.
You can even remove the Rip, and no one will notice a thing.

Lighter.5631

Main warrior, Le lighter asura warrior, Mercyoff human warrior and newly made You Come huge norn warrior
can play thief, engineer at an acceptable level

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

T raw.4658:

coglin.1867:

Wow, this thread is extremely misinformation and chalk full of mistakes. Generally in the case of folks making broad claims such as “X” professions hard counters “Y” profession. When that is not correct. Some professions builds may trump the so called “meta” builds of other professions. To claim a profession as a whole, trumps another profession as a whole, is embarrassingly misinformed.

Necro vs Engi

Engi annihilates power necros, usually. They also have a few builds that are very strong against condition necros.

Even the so-called “hardest counter in the game”…isn’t. Not on a profession level, anyway.

Does condition necro hard counter condition engi? Yes. Does Necro counter Engi? Nope.

@Simon: Hambow Warriors used to hard counter all Necro builds. They’ve since been nerfed. Still not an easy fight for the necro, but not the most difficult either.

Lol , we already know you don’t really have any pvp experience.

For everyone saying warrior counters necro.

No, thats not how it works, when played at a proper level, no warrior can win against necro.

warrior counters pretty much no one.

Hoaxintelligence.4628:

Nice vid! But I think you would have more succes If you replace your GS with Hammer ^^

Hammer is only advantage on points fighting.

In open world, it does not work.

Just like how in open world, a s/d thief vs DD ele will last forever and eventually being s/d thief winning.

dominik.9721:

However, this thread is not about PvP so none is arguing against buffs in PvP but…
Why are nearly all EU PvP top tear teams like TCG and CM playing with warriors if they are “a freekill” ? lol.

Lol, hes talking about early 2013 when no top team had a warrior, top warriors could not find a team, if you encounter a warrior in TQ in 10 matches you are lucky. not recent teams. if you really know “start” does not mean when you started playing this game which is “like last month or something” , not to mention TCG did not run warrior on ToG.

dominik.9721:

Nothing else,that’s the correct answer. But how would it be fair compared to other classes if you give them also good dps, allthough they have much better support opportunities?

A fair solution would be to nerf the banner buffs and to buff their dps in return.

Anyway, buff the dps of warriors and maybe then guardians are behind warriors dps wise…. so should guardians now complain about offering nothing else than boons / reflection and medicore dps? Shall guardians now complain about beeing trashtear because only mesmers and necromancers have lower dps? I just don’t get the logic behind.

Guardian brings so much more value to the team. You clearly don’t know how much value does reflect offers. simply one reflect will make a fight to so much faster so much easier. I don’t see the reason why guardian should out put higher DPS then a warrior with close to no team value except damage buff.

cheese.4739:

Jerus.4350:

cheese.4739:

Would be worst on Thieves, I think.

Heartseeker, Heartseeker, Heartseeker, Heartseeker, Heartseeker, Heartseeker, Heartseeker, Heartseeker, Heartseeker, Heartseeker, Heartseeker, Heartseeker, Heartseeker, Heartseeker, Heartseeker, Heartseeker….. it’d never stop!

does initiative reset on weapon swap?

No – there’s actually a trait that grants initiative on weapon swap, and all.

A Thief might want to run two of the same weaponset with on-swap sigils, maybe, but the vast majority of the time they’re better running Shortbow for its utility.

actually, thieves used to run dual S/D back then..it was actually meta build

So i was like hey why not have two greatsword equiped and show people how awesome i am..

but then i found out that you use skills on greatsword A, you switch to greatsword B it will also have the CD…

Plox fix this , i need to be the greatsword king.

STRanger.5120:

Jelzouki.4128:

STRanger.5120:

Mesmers as the most mobile class in game?

best joke of the day, seriously….

Please take your comment somewhere else where it is backed by logic.

I guess you’ve never heard of blinking, and portals?

Guess you never heard about OOC mobility and IC mobility difference, and if you did, you obviously didn’t read the post which I was reacting to where this is not defined.
Thanks for commenting though, your opinion is highly valued. /sarcasm

Mesmer has really high in fight mobility.
as for off fight 1200 blink can easily travel between points and with portal setup it has the fastest return speed.

but if you want to say open world marathon, it is slow.

then it should be called “magical bull” or “lightning bull”
you move so fast that it looks like a lightning!

grab my kitten please sexy

lighter.5631

lol condition warrior isnt even strong…like it’s weak..

useless you talking about condition bunker, then they do no damage.

Maskaganda.2043:

it’s an instant cast, animation won’t help you. there’s absolutely no reason to put a cast time on it when the skill knocks the engie down as well.

sometimes it even knocks the engie down while the targe is still fine! (hi last stand, hi shared anguish)

it’s honestly one of the best designed skills in the game as it has a risk factor to consider and can’ just be spamed like so many other things.

Lol, i don’t even know how this skill is the best designed skill in the game.
The risk is no where close the reward it brings, not to mention the knock down up time is so high.

a good designed skill is a skill which you can react and counter by reading your enemy.
like earth shaker, like eviscrate, like kill shot, like iZerker, mirror blade, pin down, magnet pull, ice grenades and the soon will be long point shot.

not some insta cast i-get-down-too, but-you-get-down longer-so-i-still-get-to-attack-you, not to mention the self knock back already has it’s benefit of curing soft CCs and positioning.

Engi is top notch pve class right now superior then warrior.

just saying.

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not boon, please

5v5v5 would be too much of a zerg fest imo

3v3v3 would be good

So warrior is already balanced around it and not OP anymore
now you want farther nerf to fire field and some people even want to nerf might stacking and runes.

Watch warrior fall in to oblivion if anet listen to you people and ill be laughing so hard.

Still does not change the fact that your build is cancer and focused around brainless 1v1
he said nothing wrong but truth

also look at the conversation, all he did was saying that your build is cancer and bad, but you ended up insulting him, in result he said “insulting a 1st tier player is wrong” as defense. (you clearly edited out the part where you were insulting him)

in the end, you are the one whos being a the whos insulting people and act like an innocent on the forum, it appears.

Lol, the hambow now will reckt the old lyssa hambow so hard, it’s not even at the same level.

Did you mean the older darker age of every team has 2 dd ele and no team have a warrior, if you find a warrior in 10 teamqs you are lucky and enjoy your free kills.

Ostricheggs.3742:

Honestly, a lot of the classes aren’t OP and a lot of super strong builds came about more from the sigil/rune changes than any sort of balance changes to classes. It’s more like, “what runes/sigils go so well with certain classes that it makes them broke as all hell”. I don’t believe that a ton of changes to things like engis or eles are required at this point when what made them so strong the last patch was the changes to sigils and runes…

To that end, battle/cele/hoelbrak + lots of heals and vigor seem to be one of the go-tos in this meta.

Fire + air is stupid strong for burst classes.

Balthazar for condi engis is dumb too.

Nightmare is incredibly borked and total BS for necros.

The duration of poison on doom is a little too high as well IMO…

Pack runes are quite incredible and underplayed on just about everything…

EDIT: I will say the one thing that DOES need to be changed currently would have to be the strength of turrets… It gets pretty old pretty quick….

you forgot sigil of intelligence.

without it, hambow will be no more, not even axe/sword. yet hambow and the whole warrior class got nerfed and is balanced around it

Vukorep.3081:

warriors are weak? try telling that to non guard/ele classes who wanna play a dungeon or god forbid a fractal

hmm what you doing, this is a PvP thread here.
not to mention thief has always been in dungeon speed clear and engi actually has 3rd highest dps
and ranger has been in speed clears as well…

being unique does not equal a good thing.

not sure why people just +1 like he made so much sense

there are tons of bad games with unique bad stuff…

Yes. warrior used to be the most balanced class.
The class it’self does not have tons of crazy instant teleporting ranged mechanics.

You react to enemy’s moves and try to counter them. and release your telegraphed counterable moves. Melee are melee and ranged are ranged, non of the attacks are too crazy and out of no where with all the flashiness. specially the good old bullcharge hundred blade greatsword/longbow build, with one limited readable CC, one stab, one blind, one immo.

The most fun i had was dueling a warrior. If you ever see a good dueling between two good greatsword/longbow warrior, that’s what i call reaction time and skills and counter plays and positioning and epicness….non of those instant RNG BS random proc stuff.

the 2nd build i had the most fun fighting is shatter. not lock down, not mantra. just pure team shatter, because their moves are readable as well, close to a warrior.

Since when warrior was free point trash tier, i’ve been telling anet to balance the classes around warrior, but no, they balance warrior around other classes with all crazy mechanics and kittens.

Even the audience knew what to do faster….which is simply reset…

Defektive.7283:

Hans tries to rejoin server but it was full

Lol what, how could this even happen.
#Esports ready

PSX.9250:

Defektive.7283:

Grouch asks the opposing team if they are ok with a reset. They obviously say no.

To the losers bracket!

Shame they objected to a reset.

Shame Shame Shame to that team, #Wewantthemoney,nothonor.
#EsportDrama.

uberkingkong.8041:

Only people from your team was lagging out. If it was server lag everyone should have been experiencing lag.

I’ve experienced this in SoloQ like yesterday or before yesterday as well.
We were winning, suddenly, we started lagging, and it’s seems like it’s only our team, only people on our team complained, and we got trained so hard because of lag, enemies don’t seem to have any problem.

Really Weird.

i think the reward should be shared to the reserved as well as the player who D/C
if any team has a reserve.

Silv.9207:

You’ve missed Warrior’s banner regen!
.

you clearly do no understand what OP is talking about, specing for banner regen give up a lot of other stuff.

i don’t see how getting killed by one of the best 1v1 builds in a 1v1 proves anything…
the moment corrupt fear chain existed, it already beats most of the builds 1v1, even beat hambow so hard if played properly.
yet you still QQed, and hambow got nerfed.
same thing.

but here, imo dd ele is op, cuz it’s might stack ability and sigil of doom

predictable is not the word, because it is not predictable
it’s only counterable, if you know the difference.

if you really going for perplexity.
i would recommand use it on classes with more reliable fast CCs
like off hand pistol thief

thief, because

easier to play, easier to level up pve wise, it eats mesmer for breakfast in pvp, and more useful with less skill.

for everyone says other wise, you are biased, it’s only fact. and i have champion shadow, i don’t even have champion illuionist.

cruuk will not be very happy.

Skrill.6170:

Simon.3794:

TheThiefMaster.3812:

it takes 12 traits ( minor ones included )to make steal as strong it is yet you feel your kittening is justified i bet …………………….people.

so, mesmer has 12 traits, but are shatters as strong as steal?
warrior has 12 traits, but are burst skills as strong as steal?

why to justify……hmmmmm…

Mesmer shatters:
1 – deals high dmg
2 – applies 1 stack confusion
3 – daze
4 – 5 stacks vulnerability
5 – evade all attacks for 1 sec
6 – interrupt with f3 applies 3 stacks vulnerability
7 – every shatter applies 1 stack vulnerability
8 – every shatter applies 1 stack confusion
9 – f2 grants 5 sec retaliation
10 – instant recharge all shatters at 50% hp
11 – shattering illusions grants might
12 – shattering illusions creates the shatter effect on you as well
13 – every shatter skill is aoe
14 – when midwrack/cry crits, you get vigor
15 – mindwrack deals 20% more dmg
16 – every shatter removes a boon on hit
17 – every shatter is instant cast
18 – shatter recharge reduced by 30%
19 – shatter effects get stronger for every illusion shattered
20 – can be activated from long range
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wahh shatter too stronk wahh
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Yes, your shatters are just as strong as steal. My point is.. yes u get extremely strong skills if u heavily trait into the corresponding trait lines.

shatter is not as strong, 1st it’s so easy to dodge unlike steal, even at melee range is so easy to dodge, no body would ever use it at long range, shatter is melee ranged, if you can’t see clones walking slowly to you then it’s really L2P, 2nd it’s 4 buttons not one. 3rd of all, mesmer not my main, i just play it like i play thief, mesmer, warrior, engi, necro, cuz you know, learn about other classes and counter plays make you better, in fact i have more time on my thief then most of the classes.

OT: i was playing non trickery thieves 4 signet 1 shot trolol build, and these trickery thieves just abuse steal so much, getting carried by it, and act like they are good. so sad, it’s like people playing PU and think they are good. unreal. for the ones i’ve countered today, without trickery steal hit they can’t even win, even tho i’m freaking 4 signets. not to mention that i’m freaking human and they are asuras ( gg standard enemy models gets undone after stealth.)

sorrychief.2563:

‘best’ is pretty subjective.

x/focus hammer goordian (digustingly funny)

focus hammer guardian is fun at one shoting as well. :p

It’s really funny, how all these thieves just kitten…and really, they don’t even know about other classes, like hell, they don’t care, yet they claim to know everything about balance…

that’s what i call, insanity.

TheThiefMaster.3812:

Simon.3794:

TheThiefMaster.3812:

it takes 12 traits ( minor ones included )to make steal as strong it is yet you feel your kittening is justified i bet …………………….people.

so, mesmer has 12 traits, but are shatters as strong as steal?
warrior has 12 traits, but are burst skills as strong as steal?

why to justify……hmmmmm…

what shatter build puts 12 traits into mind wrack? and yes warrior’s burst skill when traited is pretty kitten esp with long bow.

oh and also please, don’t put any point in to discipline and play longbow, and see how big the circle will be, better wear glasses because you will be so run out of adrenaline you won’t even see the circle of the fire field.

TheThiefMaster.3812:

Simon.3794:

TheThiefMaster.3812:

it takes 12 traits ( minor ones included )to make steal as strong it is yet you feel your kittening is justified i bet …………………….people.

so, mesmer has 12 traits, but are shatters as strong as steal?
warrior has 12 traits, but are burst skills as strong as steal?

why to justify……hmmmmm…

what shatter build puts 12 traits into mind wrack? and yes warrior’s burst skill when treated is pretty kitten esp with long bow.

What, you don’t even know what traits shatter mesmer has?
u do realize what you said was basicly “what s/d build puts 12 traits in to steal?”

ok, don post anymoar plox n don’t haz kidz.

TheThiefMaster.3812:

it takes 12 traits ( minor ones included )to make steal as strong it is yet you feel your kittening is justified i bet …………………….people.

so, mesmer has 12 traits, but are shatters as strong as steal?
warrior has 12 traits, but are burst skills as strong as steal?

why to justify……hmmmmm…

The moderator is so nice, he didn’t delete your thread, but changed the title

you don’t want to play this class in PvE or WvW.

…it’s boring and unfun…really..

it’s probably a gw1 concept design or someting

edit: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:%22Abbaddon_God_Statue%22_concept_art_1.jpg

this is it.

i never liked how devs make these sigils RNG based of random crits

i literally got bursted down by a headshot as it proced air and fire.

you need skills, my frrand.

Acandis.3250:

1. It can be utilized even while you’re CCd
   • If you are hard CC’d, you should not be able to use any skill that aren’t stunbreaks. Plain and simple.

this will probably stop most of the complaint, imo.

Narkodx.1472:

ok because having a hammer equipped with the CC skills of rampage would not be insane

cuz cant strip stability and blockable and animation, k thx bye.