Guild Wars 2

Takanashi.6548:

IMO Tank (bunker) roles should not be healing at all, people want to tank they tank but get no access to any heals.

“If people want to damage they do damage and get no access to any heals”

My statement sounds just as ridiculous as yours.

kitten . My build isn’t even on there.

Guardian with Bow/hammer and Sentinel Amulet ftw.

Is hotjoin really the entry point for new players? I can’t imagine it is. The UI points you towards Unranked as a new player far more then it does Hotjoin.

I’d have to agree. I just want to do hot join at least.

bLind.6278:

All I’m seeing reward-wise is a handful of gold, some Shards of Glory and access to an Ascended Backpiece if you hit Diamond. Considering I’m A) a newb, and a warrior, Diamond is definitely not happening.

Should I even bother?

What frustration? I’m having fun doing PvP everyday at the dizzying height of Emereld. If I manage to get out of that and thru Sapphire I’ll probably cap in Ruby as that’s about as good as I’ll get but its fun pretty much every game.

Don’t let the forums bring you down man, it’s not as bad as it’s made out to be.

I mix it up between solo and duo que with some people on my friends list. Should hopefully hit Saphire tonight but having a blast regardless.

I returned to GW2 just for leagues and I’m having a blast, go figure. 70 games in, had no DC, no afkers, qued into a full premade like twice and when I que with a few guildies we always, 100% of the time have a premade in the opposing team aswell so pretty happy with it so far.

LordOtto.2650:

So it is not Anet’s fault that queue is putting me with 2 DH and 1 Thief, and I’m DH to, not to mention the other 2 DH is brainless trap users, and die in 2 seconds..literally in max 5 seconds… the thief can’t do anything against healer/bunker tipes novadays, so who’s fault is that? If you don’t have 1 ele and 1 druid in your team you already lost the game.
And with DH now we have to use other than traps or u get instant death because of condi dmg..
This game had become bunker wars.
And yes, I always get angry and say horrible things to ppl, because they don’t use their brain or normal professions, that’s partially Anet’s fault ( no balance in professions)
If you use Warrior, Thief, Full DH trap professions, just leave solo queue alone, it is for team builds only, or I will get mad an say horrible things to you in team chat!

Well, first of all, balance has nothing to do with being able to communicate in a match, I think you completely missed the OPs point there or just wanted to have a whinge about balance, it’s not like there isn’t enough posts on that already.

Secondly, telling people to reroll to a meta class for PvP is ridiculous. Metas change over time and are constantly evolving. If there’s no players creating new builds to try and crack the meta it wont evolve. Thirdly, I’ll take a good player on thier chosen class anyday over someone who copy pasted a build and isn’t comfortable with it. Playing a meta build will not improve your rotations around a map if you already have terrible map awareness.

Last but not least, I play a trap Guardian with Bow and Hammer. I like it, it works and provides plenty to my team in a team fight. It’s my own little variation of a build a guildie made himself. I’ll keep playing it in solo que, cheers for the advice anyway.

Ive said this before recently, it’s like playing with NPC’s. There’s no response to callouts, no Incoming calls, not even a response to a hello at the start of a match and then at the end when we lose and I’ve been trying to type all thru the game the one liner from one guy was “gg, bad team”.

Zodian.6597:

I used to do this youtube bit where I’d post guide videos for builds with top players/streamers, so I’ve pretty much tried every prevalent sPvP build the NA side of this game has seen. Here’s my picks:

Worst:

• d/d backstab thief (early on, 0 counter play -you’d just run around instagibbing ppl out of stealth).
• s/d evade spam thief (really spammy and annoying to play against, playing it felt very bland compared to other classes -there just wasn’t as much decision making going on)
• d/d cantrip ele (pretty much plagued the NA meta for the first year or two).
• HGH engi (roll your face across the keyboard and get rewarded with 25 stacks of might).
• Signet Warrior (passive sustain was broken, you could just kite around for a few seconds if you got low and be close to full hp again)
• Bunker chonomancer (current meta. Yeah let’s give mesmers the boonsharing of a bunker guard, the invulnerability uptime of an s/d thief, the CC of a terrormancer, and 66% cooldown reduction for them and their party. What could go wrong?)
• Turret Engineer (did anyone like this?)
• Spirit ranger
• MM necro
• BM ranger (not because pet micro, but because evade spam = no fun for anyone).

Best:

• D/D khalifa necro (A really fun power necro build that wasn’t built around just spamming shroud 1 or wells)
• GS shatter mesmer (it’s a classic)
• Trap ranger (with torch)
• Skull crack warrior (mace/shield + GS)
• 3 kit engi
• old school bunker guard
• d/d ele (who am I kidding. it was a fun playstyle, broken, but mechanically fun).
• s/d fresh air ele
• d/p thief (flawed, but probably the closest Thief has come to a mechanically balanced build & moderately fun to play).
• Terror/condi necro (another classic)
• Zerker staff ele (manmode)
• Condi mesmer (this is my guilty pleasure. It’s not a fun build to play against, but I could never get enough of it. I just loved seeing that constant stream of clones kamikaze their way into my enemies -and watching the other team trying to figure out where the hell I am lol)

I remember watching your vids when mplayed 2 years ago, they were really good. When did you stop doing them if I may ask? There’s nothing really out there that covers builds like you used to.

60 games in the last week and a half and I’ve still not seen a diamond player in any matches as Amber and Emereld. Seen a couple of Ruby players, never a Diamond. Not a big sample pool though.

Have you ever got 2 pips for a win? The other team lost two pips. I don’t mind it. I once got 2 pips for a loss by 8 points, that was nice and last night I got 3 pips for a win cause we trounced a premade of 3 Sapphire players as a bunch of solo Amber and Emereld.

2 people in this thread have asked to not lose pips when you lose a match. This would completely invalidate the division structure, it would just be all about rewards with no risk. If you never lose pips, everybody just keeps climbing until everyone is at the top, which makes zero sense to me.

My only suggestions are to allow me to Que ranked whilst in the pve world and to somehow prevent any class stacking, just my 2 cents.

I’ve been grouping with a thief I met in a match recently in Emereld division. He consistently outs ores everyone, rotates around the map like it’s nobody’s business and is an excellent plus one when I babysit the home point. He isn’t built for team fights on a point, which can be slightly problematic if he gets caught in them but jeez, he wrecks a backline and those low hp players running away to regen hp.

Probably won’t work at the higher divisions, but at least he’s someone I know that will rotate when he sees home node contested on the mini map and decap far when he can, instead of some of the window lickers I get to play with in the dizzying heights of Emereld.

I’ve not seen this once in my 50 matches over the last week, it can’t be that prevelant. What division is this happening at? It certainly isn’t in Amber and Emereld.

Killthehealersffs.8940:

Could you give me an example , about what is happening in LoL or Smite when a partymember have dc , and you are voting to Surrender ?
Does it count towards Win or Loss ?
if you do not surrender , do you still play the game 5v4 ?

The person that left get heavily punished with more PiPs + Desserter buff .
Or do you to change the system , so i can start flaming the person with the least points , to force him to leave and the rest of us dont get penaltized ?

In smite and just about every other competitive game out there if you have someone DC and you lose you still lose ranking, GW2 is not unique in this so I don’t see why people are complaining. You literally can’t change this otherwise the system can be manipulated at any time by making someone DC to “stop a loss”.

Shockwave.1230:

Valkyriez.6578:

When you load into a game, you can swap classes. That’s more then most games offer IMO.

If I wasn’t a joke on every class but one I’d swap. Seriously, you’d want a chimp playing instead of me when I’m on an alt class.

Haha, ironically I’m the same. I’ve decided I need to learn another class properly to stop being so one dimensional.

When you load into a game, you can swap classes. That’s more then most games offer IMO.

The community can’t even agree on what should change overall let alone specific classes, it’s a dev nightmare trying to figure it out IMO.

Sorry to hear that man. I’d still take a good warrior over a bad player on a “meta” class anyday. I find it weird that you see a lot of bad chat in team chat. 90% of my games is like playing with NPC’s, there is no chat at all, not even a reply to “Hi” when I zone in.

Meta classes work in a meta team by meta players IMO. It doesn’t work at my tier ?low tier, emerald) by people copy pasting the builds but still doing the same dumb things in a game like you said, double capping nodes, capping mid then bomb bursting all over the map, fighting off node against an Ele who is just there to distract the 4 brainless people on my team who chase him all over the map lol.

Aylpse.6280:

Had a Mesmer on my team go afk for two games in a row.

This is a joke. Because punishing soloQers wasn’t enough, now we have Tankers… and these tankers are going to get into Diamond while people who aren’t exploiting will be stuck in Ruby.

Out of curiosity, how do you get to diamond by tanking losses?

I don’t know if that was in my match, but I’m an Amber playing with a friend in diamond at the moment. It’s not to tank his mmr or anything like that, just to have someone to talk with and coordinate with.

We have been getting lots of ruby players on opposite team, so it’s balancing out IMO.

Agemnon.4608:

Divisions should certainly represent MMR since high MMR means you’re good. If you have ruby for example and only made it there by competing against other 50th percentile players then are you really a ruby? Making league correlate with MMR would give give the badges more prestige.

Ruby is like third tier from the top, wouldn’t that correspond to 50-75th percentile of the PvP population anyway? That’s my way of looking at it.

You can untick the boxes and just que for the game mode you want.

My only real drama about solo que lately is no one talks. I’ve had matches where all game I’m calling incoming, even giving numbers of opponents, marking targets etc and not a peep from my team mates al game. I always start off a match with a “Hi Team”“, how would we like to do this?” And I’ve had one reply of “Sup” in my last 15 matches.

Not even any lone rages in chat anymore, it’s like playing with NPC’s.

I thought I would add my share of feedback into the forums which seem like a bit of a pity party lately. I doubt there’s anyone who remembers me anymore, but I used to play the game from launch for about 9 months as an Australian/Oceanic sPvP/tPvP player. Ive recently returned after a 2 year hiatus and wanted to give Arenanet some feedback on my experiences as a practically brand new player again.

Not that it matters, but for reference I had around 500 ranked games up when I left and my personal milestone was being in the top 500 for a while, nothing special but I will queued my way there.

Now, first of all. The UI and system changes since launch are unreal, I’m actually super impressed. The ease of jumping into PvP now is quite incredible. No longer do you have to trawl through vendor UI’s buying specific runes, sigils and amulets and weapons then putting it all together. It’s really well done now within its own UI with drop down menu’s, I like it. I’m not a fan of the gold cost to unlock certain pieces though, but it’s leaps and bound me better then it was.

The specializations UI is amazing compared to its predecessor which was clunky as hell and much harder to make new builds then it is now. I wish there was a save/load build function though but it’s not completely necessary.

The reward track concept is really solid IMO, I’m always feeling rewarded for playing any mode at any level, another great addition.

Onto Leagues and Divisions. I love the way the UI is really clear with this, and no need to talk to an NPC anymore or buy “Paid” tournament tickets. I’ve been playing ranked and working my way through Amber which has been a to me of fun. My skill level has dropped since I last played and I’ve found 95% of my games in the Amber/Emerald division to be pretty good and relatively even with only the occasional blow out. I love the way the whole system works and how you progress upwards until you find your skill cap.

The “Meta”. I’m not too fussed with it to be honest. I see all this talk of bunkers, wish I would get some on my team though but I’m yet to see one on the enemy team either so it doesn’t worry me. I’m starting to win a lot more of my 1v1’s and team fights I’m involved in which is encouraging, the pace of most matches are decent and not being instagibbed as a dps guardian is definitely much better pacing then I remember.

Anyway, sorry for the wall of text. I’m loving the game again, I’m enjoying solo queue and I feel like a pair of fresh eyes on the UI and systems in place is a good thing.

All in all, keep up the good work Anet.

Hey mate,
I might be able to help you out here. I’m an Australian player, so my prime time to play is NA late night and during the day time. I’ve inly just returned to the game from a rather lengthy hiatus and all I did prior was tPvP.

I’m still a bit rusty, but I’m a definite team player. I might not be the most skilled mechanically at the moment, but all the theory is still there and I’ll listen to any and all directions by a team leader or other team mates.

I used to play bunker guard a lot and Phantasm Mesmer when it was a thing, currently playing a burn meditation Guardian but happy to swap and learn from scratch for a specific role of needed, hit me up in game if this interests you at all.

I can also bring some Aussie PvP friends. Some good, some still learning, up to you.

Valk.

Hi. I’ve recently returned to the game with intent to play through the PvP seasons. I used to play extensively for the first 6 months after launch and really enjoyed it but had to take time off games.

Anyway, I’m looking for a late night US or Oceanic prime time sPvP guild. I’m happy to train with others, duo que, team que etc, I’m not stressed at all. Solo queuing is ok, but having a friend or two on voice comms is how I like to PvP. I have teamspeak, can use any other VOIP if needed.

Hit me up with any questions, in the meantime you will find me grinding through Amber and hopefully the next few divisions.

Valk.

Hi,
Out of curiosity, how active are your sPvP teams? And on the off chance, are any of your PvP players active late night US / prime time Oceanic?

Don’t worry, I’m sure the sPvP community will find something minor to whinge, cry and QQ about after the next patch as game breaking and unplayable. Most MMO communities are balance whingers, but the GW2 community are by far and away the worst of the lot.

Maybe it will be QQ about meditation guardians, rifle warriors, staff ele’s and scepter mesmers. Pick any weapon combination, the community will find a complaint about it.

Haha. Man, seen it all.

The CC in GW2 is so game I can’t actually believe people would complain about it. Most CC lasts for 2 seconds tops, maybe more with MoA but meh.

There isn’t even a stun that goes longer then 4 seconds is there? Lots of CC? Doubt that.

Lol. Those maps have been done to death for most players for 11+ months. Variety is the spice of life man and if Anet says they are fit for competitive on the solo que leaderboard then they are fit for the leaderboard.

Wait.

Let me get this straight just so I got it all sorted in my brain. You want ArenaNet to REMOVE the random map generator for Solo Que tPvP?

The very same random map generator that just came in the last patch?

Have I got that right?

If so, worst idea ever. I won’t even explain why, because it should be a given.

Why would solo que need a group finder?

On topic, just about every competitive game out there punishes leavers and afkers. My only issue is that it’s a deterrent but the other 4 team players still take a rating hit for losing 4v5.

Play balanced a d unselfish selft sustainable builds is probably a big one for me. You would want a decent mix of CC, healing, damage and mobility to cover yourself and set up kills.

Abusing what exactly? Are you saying that having a second account needs to be in some way monitored or policed?

Lads, it’s been stated to death by Arena Net already. All modes will be conquest based with secondary objectives. We could be at 5 years and that will probably ring true still.

Not that silly of an idea really especially in solo que. it will never happen but good idea regardless.

Paprikaspice.8462:

Valkyriez.6578:

Partials aren’t an issue. Either go solo or find 4 others.

What makes you say it’s not an issue? Because it is.

No it’s not. It’s an issue maybe for a small minority. Find a 5th if you want to go as a full team or solo que. it’s how competitive games work. With solo que only leader boards teams of 4 can find great individual players and recruit them to your group of 4, in he mean time, YOLO que is where it will be at.

Update from another thread: all maps bar Capricorn will be In the pool for solo que.

Outstanding work Arena Net.

Partials aren’t an issue. Either go solo or find 4 others.

I’m so happy right now. Balanced builds ftw.

Character locking at the start of a match is a definite must. Once you press GO, no more changing characters. Changing builds however should be allowed with the templates in the Get Ready phase as you and the other solo players sort out team roles.

Nikkle.4013:

Valkyriez.6578:

Let the team que die for all I care. It will make a comeback down the track but Solo que was always a must have if the population was ever going to increase.

Solo que is the best way for teams to form anyways. Solo que will mean many more teams in the future imo. Team que’s will drop probably for a few weeks but then will probably be what they are now or even better a month or two later.

Exactly. Like minded solo players will band together and play team que anyway. It a healthy change for the game.

Tyler Bearce.3427:

Solo Arena, map randomization and the leaver penalty are all coming at the same time.

Tyler……… I think you might be my favorite person in the whole world right now.

That. Is. Amazing.

Let the team que die for all I care. It will make a comeback down the track but Solo que was always a must have if the population was ever going to increase.

I would love for a NPC in the mists be there to join in the PvP mini games over the last year. I never done any of them because it involved leaving the mists.

It may be a case of better late then never but well done Arena Net.

You have another returning player in myself at least, it was all I was really waiting on (and random map rotation for tournaments).

Question though, is the data mined deserter penalty also coming on August 6th? They need to go hand in hand IMO.

Any other forum lurkers plan on coming back now that YOLO que will be in? All I need to do now is sort out a build or 2 for my classes, they are bound to be out of date. I might even consider streaming again.

Note…… I would love those touted templates to make an appearance aswell. Changing builds on the fly in YOLO matches would be handy.

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

Valkyriez.6578:

The GW2 sPvP community is terrible and has been since October. The largest collection of whingers I’ve come across but thankfully it’s shrinking everyday (the sPvP community as a whole is shrinking and is in its last legs IMO).

For months the community have collectively whinged about balance in quite possible the most balanced MMORPG’s going around when the glaring issue has and always was infrastructure. Too many players have a personal investment in thier class and every balance discussion is skewed to purely subjective gibberish.

Sorry but if you think the game is balanced, You are crazy. Sure the whinging is bad Anets poor useless attempts of “balance” and bug/issue fixing is ALOT worse and seems to get worse by the day.

Until Anet get a handle of what the issues are and actually FIX whats broken rather then fix what doesnt need fixing and BALANCE the classes then the game WILL continue to go downhill

The game STILL has bugs and issues that were in the BETA, Necro has again become the pre-release Overpowered class that were nerfed to much come release. Thief is STILL overpowered and Stealth (at least with them) is still broken.

The game has very little in build diversity either which is also ruining the game and making it VERY poor.

Once again, another player who thinks balance is the reason for GW2’s downfall not the complete lack of infrastructure.

Every game has a built in unbalance and that’s fine. The game is built around 5v5 and most commonly those fights aren’t taking place so there is a perceived imbalance which isn’t the case.

Sure, there’s bugs but they aren’t show stoppers by any stretch.

The GW2 sPvP community is terrible and has been since October. The largest collection of whingers I’ve come across but thankfully it’s shrinking everyday (the sPvP community as a whole is shrinking and is in its last legs IMO).

For months the community have collectively whinged about balance in quite possible the most balanced MMORPG’s going around when the glaring issue has and always was infrastructure. Too many players have a personal investment in thier class and every balance discussion is skewed to purely subjective gibberish.