Guild Wars 2

Leeto.1570:

Soloque takes no skill, team que takes no skill, 1v1 takes no skill. Why? Because no rewarards = no competition. But it does take skill to play good this game, good cooldown management and not wasting dodges do benefit you, but as there is no competition there is no point mastering the game cause it really doesnt matter if you are 1st or 100th on leaderboards.
If they add seasons + good rewards (arena gear sets for example), then people will actually put effort into playing better than others.
Maybe it does`nt take skill to kill newbies with warrior but it definetly takes skills to actually play the class good, otherwise soloque wouldnt be filled with these garbage warrs.

Saying it takes no skill currently is incorrect. Only the best player in the game at every class can make that claim. If for necro it is you, then point taken.

Where you are definitely correct is in saying that more people will increase the competition level. That is quite true and the reason we need as many new PvP people as possible. The new rewards are going to be key. If it just ends up being that we can get more PvE gear as a result of PvP, I’d consider that even worse than the current system.

@OP

It is not a NA vs EU thing. Certain specs are equally broken on both.

AlbertoUlkesh.4517:

So… I see some good suggestions on how to improve on the map, if not removed. And how Team Q might be able to counterplay it on a premade team.

What I don’t see is a single reason why they are in Solo Q, but not in Team Q.

Interesting.

Maybe you just missed the 30 other threads on this topic.

@John C:

My thoughts:
Season length: 8 weeks + 2 week playoffs afterwards

Balance patches: One before and one after the season

Format: Should be more focused around individuals vs teams. Why? Teams can’t stay together for long. If it is structured around teams, if one person needs a gw2 break, the team is done.

Leeto.1570:

So because you held far as decap engi against bad team it is OK that warriors go to farpoint and die 5 times because “they so OP and kill errything”?
Is this just to brag or you really dont understand how incompetent player going far point is bad for team?

You and the OP are both arguing the extreme cases. The actual answer is somewhere in the middle. Far point should be pushed depending on what is going on in the map. Teams need to adjust strategy based on what is happening.

You all need to separate the poster from the content. He is correct that those specs mentioned are skill-less.

The only change I’d make is calling out mm necro. That’s too easy of a spec.

I’d rather see…
Tier1-T3
T4-T6
T7-T8

@OP:

This is FA we are talking about. They will drop down to silver for sure and then dominate there.

ronpierce.2760:

Well yeah. I wouldn’t touch a F2P/B2P NCSoft game in exchange for this one… I know they’re greedy but luckily its a sub game and won’t have a cash shop as they say, so I’m not too worried about that.

So I criticize ANET as much as anyone, but this comment is just crazy. From a cost perspective, you can’t beat gw2. You can buy the game and then never give ANET another cent. It’s a good deal.

Both should be removed from solo queue. At least spirit watch is somewhat fixable if they remove skill use when carrying the orb.

@OP:

Are you serious? Spirit rangers are one of the OP specs right now (every class has one)

PvE is pretty good actually. It really isn’t a problem. The issues are:

WvW has gotten changes, but they are not what the community wants.
PvP is forgotten and the last two maps delivered have been very poor.
Balance is the biggest fail in this game. I’ve explained why in the past, but the issue is that ANET has a really bad methodology there.

This map is not balanced at all, and shouldn’t be in solo queue. So, I’d like to propose one of two options:

1. Remove it from solo queue (the easy but not great solution)

2. Change the mechanics of the map.

The changes:
—When someone picks up an orb, they get a completely new skill bar and no utilities. The only skills would be a small heal, remove a condi, and aegis. These would all be on a timer.
—The orb carrier health/armor is set at 15,000 and 3,000. If someone picks up the orb when they are already damaged, say 50%, then they would start running the orb with 7,500 hp (picking up the orb can’t be a free full heal)

So, why should these changes be made? One we can balance the orb carrier, it allows for new game modes such as CTF. CTF would not work well in the current approach. It would also allow spirit watch to be more competitive vs having certain classes dominate the orb carrying. In solo queue, if you don’t get one of those classes, it is pretty much gg from the start.

EOTM is not good for fights. It is mostly there for karma trains and for troll specs. The lack of WP makes it even more boring. Way too much running.

The map is horrible. Let’s hope we get a surprise during the maintenance update.

@OP:

What you don’t understand is that people don’t defend for one main reason…. it is boring. Most people play the game to actually play, not to sit around waiting for something to happen. That will always be the case with defense.

So you had an idea of upgraded structures earning more points. The problem is that it is REALLY easy to defend a T3 tower already. I’m concerned that it will give the server that is ahead early a huge advantage. Most servers are a lot of fairweathers that don’t play after they start trailing on the scoreboard. That’s not good for fun fights.

The best counter to decap engi are condi necro and ele. For condi necro, just ensure to drop as many condis as possible before they hit the 25% health level.

SonOfKrypton.4357:

I’m absolutely sick to death of players who don’t know what to do in PvP matches.

They fight off point and clearly the capture points part of the game is lost on them.

I feel like I’m the only person on my team looking at the map icons, seeing where players are, playing strategically.

All I want is my Champion title and I’ll be goneski from PvP. It’s disappointing that my success in achieving this goal is dependent on players who have no idea what they’re doing.

/rant

I’ve learned that if you think all members of your team are horrible except for you, most likely it is you that is the problem. In the team game, not everyone is going to play the same way you do. You have to adapt a bit based on what is going on.

Jomo kenyatta.7351:

Yet another post from someone whos not even in the top 1000% telling people whove played over 4000 tourneys that thieves arent as op as we think this is why the game is how it is, anet are listinging to people like you and not listening to people like Lordrosky, he has 3 accounts that have been number one in solo que, a really good win ratio only reason people dont listen to him is because hes angry at how the game is progressing or not as the case may be, thats passion about this game Anet are ignoring, hes the best necro in the game and he knows what hes talkin about, hes one of the only people who dont say biased opinions all he wants is this game to get balanced, people like you need to stop posting your useless and always outdated opinions and leave it to people who know whats going on, oh and btw i said 3 months ago pistol whip was op, noone believed me and now look what happened.

Wow. You win for the longest sentence ever.

HS should be nerfed by 15% and the tie to healing power should be increased by a lot at the same time. In other words, a zerker would heal for less but a more bunker oriented warior would heal for more.

caveman.5840:

idk if it is just me but the game feels less balanced than ever for all classes.

is it just me.
will ferocity really fix this, even if it is later down the road.

seems like qq only increases no matter the nerf.

Ferocity isn’t intended to balance anything. It is to make up for PvE content where zerker is “too” strong. ANET had to decide whether to fix their bosses or nerf crit damage and they decided the easiest approach was to nerf crit damage

If you can’t see animations on asura then either you are:

1. Really old
2. Partially blind
3. Play at some crazy high resolution

@OP:

I stopped reading when you said ele is bad at everything except PvE. They are one of the top 3 classes within WvW. Just stick to arguing for changes in PvP.

Aberrant.6749:

Overall… too many low risk, low skill, required high reward specs. Too many passive skills/traits which are too strong. Seriously… passive shouldn’t also be optimal. You should give up some efficiency to gain that no input required stuffs. Fix this and the community will huggles you. Lots and lots of huggles.

This is true. EVERY class has one spec like that right now (except maybe ele). Passive is also too strong. The other issue is that AOE is too strong. AOE should be have much less damage than single target.

Cynz.9437:

style.6173:

Master of Timespace.2548:

I’m pretty sure that sky hammer in soloq is a bug. I always send a bug report about it whenever I get it.

I wish I could give ANET a dishonorable debuff every time it comes up

they can remove dishonorable… lol dev tools

Hackzzzzz

@OP:

The answer is no. Specs that work in sPvP are not ideal for WvW roaming. You rarely run into a pure GC in WvW roaming either.

and I don’t know what tier you play in, but i’ll say in T1, you are lucky to find ANY roaming. Somehow the definition here is that roaming is 5 man groups.

Avenge.1478:

ANet doesnt give a kitten about WvW, accept it.

This. They got feedback before not to implement on reset night. They didn’t care. Get used to it.

Wait until the new season begins BEFORE asking if a server is dead.

Master of Timespace.2548:

I’m pretty sure that sky hammer in soloq is a bug. I always send a bug report about it whenever I get it.

I wish I could give ANET a dishonorable debuff every time it comes up

CMstorm.8679:

Okay, to be honest, I will point one thing. It does take skill to land a hit with the Skyhammer cannon. It has a noticeably long telegraphed charge and it covers a big area. Sure you can’t block it or dodge, but you can easily run out of the area, therefore making it harder for the guy on the cannon to land a hit with it.

you made me laugh. thank you. It is very true as long as the point of the game isn’t conquest or something like that.

We can’t even get them to remove skyhammer from solo queue. I mean how hard of a change is that? If they don’t have time to implement something so small, what makes you think they are doing anything bigger?

@OP:

I disagree. T1 AND T2 do not need more people. This is a good way to get people to go to lower tier servers.

This is one of the best decision recently by ANET

Maybe we will get some good news when they announce the next patch. Hopefully skyhammer and spirit watch will be removed from solo queue.

@OP:

As others have said, skill is NOT about landing your first combo. That actually takes no skill and can just be a series of key binds.

Real skill is about actually fighting an opponent, knowing when to use what skills, when to change attunements, how to time dodges appropriately, etc. That is skill.

Burst needs to be reduced so that there can be higher sustain. That opens up more play styles as well. If ANET keeps the burst and ups the sustain, ele will just become fotm and next patch, everyone will be asking for nerfs again.

@OP: First rank is blah. I could care less what they do with it.

The bigger issue in my mind is that they are removing rewards for PvP without introducing something new. Keep the system in place as-is until a new rewards system is ready.

stof.9341:

I’ll sum up what I don’t like that way :

Bunkers can outsustain DPS while non bunkers tent to die instantly to burst. Both are unfun.

The burst is tuned to stand a chance to beat bunker sustain, but doing so it just melts glassy specs. All that stems from the fact that the sustain in this game is too strong.

Good post. I agree

@ANET,

Please add in armor or weapons as well. Those of us who have been playing for awhile have more ascended accessories than we know what to do with. Armor or weapons would be better rewards.

Of all the issues with WvW, this is not a priority. In fact, I don’t even see why so many people complain about it. Bannering adds more strategy to a fight. It requires groups to coordinate on who will banner and when. It is also a great defense tactic without adding more lame siege pieces.

Rising Dusk.2408:

Just because ANet announced that glory would go away doesn’t mean they can fairly just screw people over who have these boosters. ANet is still rewarding these boosters today in achievement chests and reward chests. Because they keep rewarding them and consequently taking away valuable spots from other boosters we could get (or other items in general), they absolutely must do more than simply get rid of them.

I fully support the idea of these boosters becoming a consumable worth a lesser amount of Glory, such as 250 glory.

Agreed. Let’s hope ANET implements this.

Sounds like you won’t get any rewards other than rank boosters for a period of time. Then at some point, they will be introducing a new rewards system.

My question is whether the glory vendors will still be there after March 18th. I am hoping that they only remove the ability to get new glory but do not remove the ability to use glory that we already have.

Sheppy.9306:

But yes i agree overall that if you you increase their sustain you will have to change that burst but only if their overall survivability improves as a result.

Yes, this is the idea… Better survivability, but lower burst.

Morrigan.2809:

She pricked her finger in the Tower- Marjory made an anti toxin that destroyed the Tower- Scarlet later used the anti toxin to manufacture the maisma.

It seems very unlikely that Marjory did not give Kasmeer the anti toxin the moment she stepped out of the Tower.

As has been said- Kasmeer hiccups when she is scared.

The two have nothing to do with each other.

This ^^

Straegen.2938:

GrandmaFunk.3052:

Halo.8976:

Hands down, Edge of the Mists. Best map for solo or small group roaming.

Eotm is horrible for solo roaming, in the vast majority of cases when you meet enemies they will outnumber you 40+ to 1.

Agreed… the runs are also far too long for decent roaming. When we control SM, I find hunting by the guard flags in enemy territory fun. Roaming in the south areas of a BL are probably the best.

This ^^.

That said roaming is pretty boring in WvW. It is basically a lot of running, then you win or lose a fight, then repeat. To clarify, I do mean roaming, not small group running around together.

What a lot of people don’t understand is that larger points makes bunkering EASIER. Someone mentioned decap engi and that is true but it is much bigger than that.

Right now, a bunker has to decide whether to stand in AOE and use heal/condi removal skills. A larger point allows them to run around more.

Ultimately, this is a huge bunker buff and a nerf to anyone who is trying to do damage.

That said, where I would like to see a larger point is for a team deathmatch. First team to take the point wins. Best 2 out of 3 takes the match. The point is important so that one team isn’t just running around at the end trying to avoid the final kill.

Or go for a full troll roaming build…. Apothecary

Actually death blossom should be removed from D/D all together. It does not blend in well with the rest of the skills. I’d like to see a new main hand weapon that is focused on melee condi attacks. Death blossom would be a great #2 skill there.

Baels.3469:

The response to this CDI seems underwhelming compared to not only previous WvW CDI’s, but also other currently active CDI’s.

I’m not being snarky, but to an extent, I think this is reflective of the lack of attention we have received as World versus World players.

Perhaps CD: Edge of the Mists is the wrong name for the CDI thread? Many may misinterpret that this CDI is about improving EOTM, as opposed to transitioning ideas/mechanics from EOTM into the regular WvW maps.

I think this might be the MOST that anet has responded in a WvW CDI so far. Compared to other CDI topics though, it is disappointing.

I think they should have a different ANET person coordinate the WvW CDI. I certainly do not mean that as disrespect to the current person. He has a ton of responsibilities and is coordinating all of the WvW activities. If you look at the balance CDI, they do not have a member of the balance team running it. They have Allie who is the community coordinator. It might be better to have someone in that type of role coordinate the CDI and then Devon could just pop in here when he has time and make comments.

@OP:

At least there is ANET participation in the ranger CDI. Go visit the WvW one and then you’ll really be disappointed.

dimyzuka.7051:

style.6173:

dimyzuka.7051:

Allie please realise that %90 of people posting in this thread are bad and/or hotjoin players that have no idea what their talking in about.

PW is fine, if you focus nerfs on PW alone thiefs will just go back to perma evade S/D cheese, or perma stealth d/p cheese. The problem is the trickery tree and the initiative regen of thiefs overall. Atleast PW can be countered by retaliation, unlike S/D which still has no counter.

I hope you realize how bad you just made yourself look. I can’t name ANY top thief in solo or team queue that runs a permastealth d/p build. It is a liability for a team.

Stay focused on PW. It doesn’t need a lot of changes. It just needs the evade removed. That won’t impact top players that much but will raise the skill cap a bit. That’s a good thing.

That’s because you dont play at high level, Caed, Xii Xii, Lux, infact in NA d/p is the premiere build amongst the top players. You wouldn’t know this because you’re a WvW and hotjoin hero.

You just made yourself look even less educated. None of them run PERMASTEALTH builds. PERMASTEALTH is only really beneficial in WvW. In PvP, people stealth, but don’t stay that way for long. The only top end player that I know who used to run permastealth in PvP was Cruuk way back when, but I don’t think he plays anymore.

If you need a definition of permastealth, let me know. I’m sure I can help you learn more about it. D/P is not equal to permastealth.