and I pay the fees, and darn it, it’s a small price to pay — literally — to avoid the ripoffs that happen when someone decides to take a risk to avoid the fees.
yeah but that’s the problem, people want to maximize their profits (even if it’s only a few gold) so badly that they’re willing to loose hundreds of gold.
GW2 was my second mmo after Lotro and I experienced worst dungeon system here that are just skip trash and kill boss,zerk zerk zerk…
Actually skipping trash and “less QQ more Pew Pew” are some of the things I remember most vividly from my WoW days.
Considering they were working on an expansion I think the delivery of content has been pretty good already.
2.5+ years to give us 3 new maps and some Living Story? This is the same company that produced 2 stand-alone games and an expansion every 6 months between 2004-2005. I’d say they fall short of what they did in GW.
Firstly you’re not quantifying the content correctly, we had several map changes, several temporary maps etc, a couple of map wide events, a retooling of Tequatl, Marionette and Triple Wurm. Counting only the permanent content and then saying they didn’t produce any content is not accurate.
Secondly, given the massive differences in the game you can’t possibly liken the production difficulty of GW1 content to GW2 content. More complex systems and higher graphical quality means more effort.
Also where are you coming with this 6 months business? https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/It-s-going-to-be-a-long-wait/4724295
Except that you haven’t seen the expansion. And that the game at launch was bigger than all three guild wars games put together. No, it hasn’t fallen short.
I still think we’re quantifying content incorrectly. One map like Silverwastes can provide more engagement for a longer period of time than some of the other current maps in game. I don’t think we should measure maps by their size (although I do think we can expect large maps), but by how much we can do in those maps. So even if HoT has less maps or smaller maps, we should measure them by the amount of content we can engage in on those maps.
What we know about this expansion so far leaves me very skeptical and cautious.
Fair enough we really haven’t been all that well informed about HoT yet. Skepticism is understandable and probably a good idea.
This game is not for you.
I wouldn’t say that. But clearly OP is carrying a grudge, and is looking toward the forum community to reinforce his believes. Also using this supposed question as a means of complaining.
How do we know that Maguuma is the only area. The Crystal Desert is just beyond. We won’t know till closer to release. Looking for further information to be released.
Well it’s not exactly as close as you think.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/File:Tyria_world_fan_map.jpg
It would only have to be in the new maps. Doing it in current maps or game modes would completely break the game.
Hmm …
Capture Stonemist
-> build upgrade for hang gliding platforms
-> fly into enemy keeps :PMaybe in the new borderland map.
Anti-air defenses! Shoot them all down and what the enemy team falling to their deaths.
Who said they are going to be skins? The gliding issue was described as an ability.
Since they skin-ed mail carriers I wouldn’t put it past ANet to sell skins for any and everything.
The basic ability and skin can be unlocked in game yet still have the cosmetic skins thru the gem store (black lion chest RNG anyone?)
This. Just hope they don’t put it behind the RNG-fest that is BLC
Please sir, find that game that has no grind and only has content and enjoy it for yourself.
Elder Scrolls
Mass Effect
Fallout
Dragon AgeIt’s actually quite easy to make a game with no grind and only content. The thing is, you won’t be able to play it for a loooong time. All of the individual titles in those franchises I played like 100 to 400 hours each. Guild Wars 2 I played 2,500 hours.
And that’s what MMO devs want, to keep you playing. So yea, it is possible, they just won’t do it.
I am talking about MMORPGs.
May not have been clear in my original post.
Those games actually have a fair amount of repetition and needless padding. Although I’m not sure it’s called grind, or particularly perceived to be grind even through it serves the same purpose as grind i.e. extending play time.
Time gate is not equal to grind.
See what I mean. Many different names for somewhat related concepts with similar goals.
I would have liked a bunch of zones (all across the world) as well, but I guess if I can get my money’s worth out of Maguuma that’s fine. Besides the Maguuma Wastes are pretty big, so you could fit several zones in there.
Guild Wars 2 HoT Release Date? [merged]
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I still think that ANet would like to release around the 10th anniversary. However I’d say 5/6 months is probably a good bet. It all depends on how far along they are with the game, but since there’s no beta going around I’d say it’s not that far along.
Gathering questions may not be a bad idea, but I can tell you that until we release the “deep dives” into each feature, there won’t be a lot that we can answer in response to specific questions. Still and all, a thread that tries to gather things together is perfectly fine with me!
In other words we’re not going to get any info until ANet makes it available, on their own time frame. They’ll probably do it like they did with the feature packs (https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/feature-packs/). Lay down a loose set of topics with dates and slowly reveal more info.
Of course at this point we don’t have a release date so it’s hard to estimate when they’ll start and at what pace they’ll be releasing info.
I always hated the reasoning why Logan was hated. Rytlock was essentially kittened off that Logan chose Hos over Bros and he threatened to kill him over it. How messed up is that? Like no one has done what Logan did before.
You mean sacrifice an opportunity to destroy an Elder Dragon, save Glint and make the world a better place (with 1 less monarchy, so that’s a triple win)? Yeah I’m sure we’ve all done that at one point.
You built so much lore and goodness in GW1. Have you forgotten that? Yes, yes — building an entirely new continent with the GW2 engine will take much longer than Heart of Thorns presumably will; I expect we’ll get HoT sometime in 2016 while Cantha, assuming it would be announced in place of HoT, would probably take until 2017 or so.
So I’m not demanding we get Cantha right now. All I’m asking is, where is it? Have y’all forgotten it? Scrapped any and all projects?
HoT in 2016? Dude get back on this planet it is coming this spring probably.
I think he’s just over preparing himself for let downs, as in adding 12 months just in case.
Move past GW1 guys
If Living Story Season 1 taught us anything it’s that alot of players are more interested in rehashing GW1 than going doing anything new in GW2
We’re getting hang-gliders. That’s kinda like a mount? Anyway we already have http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Riding_Broom and http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Magic_Carpet
Meanwhile over in the corner Engis weep about their forced hobo sacks…….
Bah engineers are getting flying turrets.
My guess beta 3rd week of March, release April 28th’s 10th anniversary.
I think that’s what they (ANet) would like to be able to do, but the practicalities of the real world might not allow for that.
What was *not* anounced for the new expansion
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… every major feauture was revealed or mentioned.
As far as I know, dungeons/raids and new races are major feautures in the MMO genre. What would MMOs be without dungeons and races?
They did announce group content though. So we would likely be getting more open world raiding at least. But if we don’t get them it wouldn’t be too surprising, when last did they do something with dungeons or fractals?
The Heart
of MaguumaNew adventures await you in the heart of the Maguuma Jungle. Confront the growing hordes of Mordremoth’s minions, discover allies from ancient civilizations, and battle new enemies.
Tackle challenging group content.
Explore new open world jungle maps.
Experience new events and storylines.
Test your mettle in new boss battles.
I’m expecting more Tequatl / Triple Trouble myself. That seems like a safe bet.
If I had spear I’d not be likely to SLASH using it
also as for me weapon he used there was more greataxe-y that spearlike…
Spears are versatile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE_J8yEUYyQ
Although a halberd would be better for slashing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Zy6B6SnoY0
EDIT: Although I guess a halberd is more of a chopping weapon. So perhaps a Polearm then.
Is it just me or the whole concept of this thread is pretty irrational? Anyway…
It’s not irrational if one takes “not announce” to mean “what I wanted but didn’t get” or “what I expected but didn’t get”. If we did take this thread at face value then yes, it would be rather impossible to list everything that wasn’t announced.
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I understand that this will be available in both digital and boxed versions. I have a question: if I get the box, I will install from disk but then will I have a huge download on top of that?
I’m thinking digital may be the best way to go…
Ok so it all depends on when the disks are made and if there are any bug fixes between the date of disk making and release. This is very very likely however. To mass produce the disks they usually need to provide a working copy of the software months ahead of release (disks need to be made, packaged, and shipped) but undoubtedly in that period of month the studio will still be working on the game, fixing bugs, polishing stuff etc.
But the assumption is that you’d have to download less if say you purchased a disk as apposed to going purely digital.
Instead of a guild hall for a single player guild, there should be an improvement for the home instance, so that can feel as homey/comfy as a guild hall (though with less of the multiplayer social interaction)
This. I don’t think ANet should be catering to solo guilds. Rather ask why do people have solo guilds, or why would people want solo guilds and than cater to the underlying needs (if applicable).
For example in this thread. And the only answer I did get from you guys was: go back to WoW…
Go back to WoW you say? Gave a link did you? You might want to recheck that link since it isn’t providing any evidence for your victim-hood by us mean mean forum-ites.
But anyway on topic, and is pretty much the answer to most of the questions in HoT forum, we don’t know. But it would appear that we’re not getting horizontal progress beyond skins, not the type of progress you want (which I’m not exactly sure is horizontal, it seems more you want specialization than progression).
I expect early Q3 release (hope earlier, but that is my guess)
I’d say that’s a reasonable date, giving the need for marketing, and betas and all that jazz.
It is a solid DLC. One like that each 6 months would make me happy. Hope the next DLC won’t take 3 another years to devellop, and that they have a team that works on a real expansion. They must did something since launch. What are they working on ?
Eh, I guess some people are simply unable to be happy with anything. We get an expansion and now we’re already seeing people trying to un-expansion-ise it. Well I guess that’s somewhat understandable since we’ve not been given a lot of details regarding the size of the new areas, but have some faith.
what race we know that used to live in “golden city”? Mursaat (which we exterminated though)
SPOILER it seems that a few of them are still kicking around based off the new trailer
You can buy them once you unlock them. Can’t remember how many bandit crests they cost.
I think it’s around 1000 crests and 10 gold.
EBKAC strikes again. But don’t worry I also gave her 2 gold. Was hoping to actually get something from it, but hey you live you learn.
Well it is odd, sure, but it’s an ad for the first expansion, so I can kinda overlook that.
Yeah, they’re going to have to do something to keep us entertained… otherwise I see a bit dip in the player base until the expansion hits.
So if we’re going to get a patch it might only be announced on Tuesday and (perhaps) come out the next Tuesday.
Let us switch between Specializations!
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I love the stuff that is coming out. I approve that we will be getting new weapons for each class. But for the love of god A-net, I hope you let us switch between specializations otherwise it will be really easy to screw up a character we’ve spent hundreds of hours on.
I hope they will let us switch specializations for one month for free to work it all out, and then make it really really expensive to change, so we get some more diverse meta game, not “X is best and Y doesn’t matter” like it is now.
Personally I wouldn’t want to have it swappable, because I’ve got about 12 alts kicking around, so I have pretty much 2 of each profession. So I wouldn’t be to negatively impacted by this, and being able to specialise my alts would be nice, so that my one necro can feel different from my other.
However this is the kind of thing that might turn off some players who aren’t alt-a-holics. So I think ANet will go for the thing that makes the most people happy.
But if we are talking about GW expansions, then map wise, it is tiny….
We don’t have any idea of how large it will be. They only said 1 regions, with 3 biomes. So we could be expecting something as large as the Kryta or Ascalon regions.
We don’t know.
No the guy doing the post interview doesn’t seem to be a GW2 player, so he’s questions were rather superficial. Granted I don’t think Colin and Mike would have gone in any details anyway.
what’s a feature pack?
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/feature-packs/
I’m not saying I want to put a dress on my female Charr. I’m saying I want armor and fashion that reflects the feminine aesthetic within Charr culture.
Charr culture is basically divided in two schools regarding females. The Flame Legion hold all their females in breeding camps. The other Legions allow females to fight, but in general females aren’t particularly feminine. That said I see why players would want this.
Again someone is finding something to complain about
I’m still missing a heavy Norn so yeah, a female (because all my other heavies are males) Norn Revenant
In all fairness the Mursaat aren’t evil, they’re just rather interested in their own survival (because who wouldn’t be?).
So as long as we have similar objectives I can see an alliance.
Maybe Gaile Gray knows sth about that ?
At this point I think they’ve revealed everything that they’re willing / allowed to.
most enemies in GW2 don’t look like the GW1 variant……
Fair enough.
Like other said. In 6 weeks we will have a playable DEMO. The final release date has yet to be revealed.
What i am curious is what will they offer us till when it gets released (not the demo). LS kinda ended…..what will there be? WvW seasons?
We’re potentially looking at a couple of months here, so they kinda need to give us something to do.
Since revenants start at level 1 I hope we get a different Personal Storym but I kinda doubt it.
Are those Mursaat? Don’t really look that much like the ones in GW1
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Mursaat
So 6+ weeks before we see a beta.
Are Masteries limited to just the jungles?
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I don’t think we’ll be able to fly outside the new zones, only because it would ruin the jumping puzzles experience in the low level areas.
But how many jumping puzzles would be ruined with gliding? I think Gliding would be wonderful to prevent falling damage in some of those jumping puzzles.
We don’t know how difficult it would be to get the pre-cursors. But I’d say it’s a good bet that prices will drop, it’s only a question of how much.
Are Masteries limited to just the jungles?
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I’d love this. But however with what they’ve told us about mastery (being able to change combat mechanics) I imagine it would require a lot of reworking of non HoT bosses and mechanics. So I’m not sure.
Months of these guys trying to destroy our hopes and dreams, gloating over the lack of evidence regarding an upcoming expansion.
I think I’ve earned this opportunity to gloat at your miserable defeat.
Gloating is never pretty :P
The hype train has only gained speed. But the faster it goes to more exciting and dangerous.
As Colin mentioned, we’ll be going into the news about Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns starting very soon. I think you’ll find that these “deep dives” will give you a lot of helpful details that will answer your questions.
Thanks, although bear with us if we’re a bit… hasty. it’s just a reflection of how much we really really want us some HoT fun!
If you can however, could you tell us if there is a date or if the date still needs to be decided?
In a perfect world we’d get S3 between now and then, worst case we get nothing.