Guild Wars 2

We can still cheese burm into moa kills. Thats pretty unique i’d say. Yeh condi engi isn’t realy competitive but just a cheap cheesy gimming (like burning in general).

If they hadn’t discowered the cash grab thats outfits i betcha we’d be getting more than 3 armorsets in the gemstore every month. Now we don’t get that many for an expansion :p

Since dungeons aren’t rewarding anymore, when i need gold i go the the silverw(h)astes and watch a movie while ocasionally pressing f.

Its the same as any other mmo, with a twist. Its all optional. Nothing past ascended gear actually boosts you character. So its a grindfest but you don’t need to do it. Just do the funstuff. No funstuff left to do? Come back anytime, no sub.

Look i aint trying to be the devils advocate here. There has certainly been a shift towards baiting people with almost impossible rewards or gating many things they add to the game with a heavy goldgate. And the cashshop is where most of the content actually enters. Getting 2 and 1/3 armorsets for the expansion compared to the mass of outfits and glider skins and other kitten thats been getting stuffed in the cashshop just paints a bad picture.

Diamond skin is no solution.

Imo the engi treatment by giving them something like adaptive amor would be adequate. It lowers the condi pressure but they can still fall to condi damage. And since its ele give them a celestial stat bonus when struck. Lazy change but it works.

I agree. The new border is quite pretty and its not as bad as most people originally thought. If they remove the automated turrets, popup walls and PvE events then its quite allright even if it is a bit too large.

Landing the 3rd chain on the toolkit feels better than landing a gravedigger. Also who knows it might become meta again with the recent changes.

All good i got over it . So will you

Stonemist Castle: Removed a vulture raptor that was floating above the castle.

LMFAO

I swear some ground targeting on my engi has already changed.

Touchê
Im still right tho.

[quote=5948589;B Stiff.9341: looks like all u want in pvp is pure tank or zerk
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Thats the gist of it. You have to commit.

Gavity well- Check
Phase shift- Check
Weaker but still strong alacrity- Check
Amazing shield skills- Check
Condi buffs- Check-

All the overdramatisation.

Cool idea but, don’t think i want to be hammering for hours on end. Doesn’t sound like fun in practice.

This change was long overdue.. Nore more i win because i have a trait! Good riddance!

Its not much but maybe its enough to make the meta shift from inventions with elixir b to tools with the toolkit.

Gyros were a lost cause from the start. But the function gyro kinda grew on me. Yea its nothing spectacular, but its servicale. The real feature here has always been the hammer.

On the bright side we got 10% added hammer dmg and some stab pretty much for free
Also people might finally stop hiding behind their sneak gyro.
Overall i like the changes, but i believe we should get nerfed (but only after rev and chrono get nerved some more).

lorddarkflare.9186:

Pride.1734:

lorddarkflare.9186:

Pride.1734:

Nope it still sux. Engi is at its best with decents support through elixir gun, healing turret and mortar. Any more investment into healing power and support is wasted.
Just play a support tempest or druid in comparison to see how (s)crappy it is.

They seem to be pretty adamant about making sure that we dont get healing bombs back. I can’t even remember when it was the last time that i saw bomb played in PvP/WvW.

Healing bombs would not be a good reason to take Bombs in PvP.

Not as bad in WvW, but similar issue.

yeh they needed a buff, not a removal :/

I actually wanted it removed, or at least severely changed.

Requiring the engineer to camp a kit to really get any use out of the skill is…problematic.

In the exact same way that health insurance and juggernaut are problematic.

I actually liked this. You basicly make bomb AA your go to auto, but you still swap to other things when you want to do something besides autoattacking in close quaters. You still used your e gun and rifle for many things. Now we’d even get the mortar as well. Basicly a GM trait that completely defines your build and playstyle is a great thing and as it should be imo. However i get that the playstyle may not suit everyone so i can see why some people wouldn’t like that.

Also health insurance is on a whole other level xD. I agree its the same in theory…. but oh boy who’d ever use this?

lorddarkflare.9186:

Pride.1734:

Nope it still sux. Engi is at its best with decents support through elixir gun, healing turret and mortar. Any more investment into healing power and support is wasted.
Just play a support tempest or druid in comparison to see how (s)crappy it is.

They seem to be pretty adamant about making sure that we dont get healing bombs back. I can’t even remember when it was the last time that i saw bomb played in PvP/WvW.

Healing bombs would not be a good reason to take Bombs in PvP.

Not as bad in WvW, but similar issue.

yeh they needed a buff, not a removal :/

Nope it still sux. Engi is at its best with decents support through elixir gun, healing turret and mortar. Any more investment into healing power and support is wasted.
Just play a support tempest or druid in comparison to see how (s)crappy it is.

They seem to be pretty adamant about making sure that we dont get healing bombs back. I can’t even remember when it was the last time that i saw bomb played in PvP/WvW.

Being in a large guild on a t1 server would probably help with the feeling that there is no one else on the entire map. It would also help with your guild not being able to get(pay for) even the most basic guild upgrades to interact with those systems in the first place.

So Join the 300 guild t1 server or gtfo?
Yea you leave your server and find the biggest guild you can find and die 50 times to fall damage til you learn the new map so you can have the same stuff you had before only with more PvE events, broken op rev’s, automated turret defense and funmode banners. or you leave
Yea m8 its us.

Everything except druid and theif is meta? I mean you see every class naturally but what is optimal?
So if the old ideal comp of 20 ppl was someting like, 6 guards, 4 warriors 5 eles and 5 necros what would the new one look like?
Would you even take a dragon hunter or scrapper over a rev?

This should be removed along with the automated defense turrets in all the castles….

Yea lets put some statues there that blowpeople off the platform… that sounds like fun… pretty sure people will like that… yea… just like they liked skyhammer…. and the wvw community has always loved some oldschool pve events with their game….

So before Hot it was the GWEN meta with the core frontliners of guardian for buffs and warriors for banners with eles as damage + waterfields and necro for well bombs.

How has this changed post Hot?
Has the meta even settled yet?

I couldn’t agree more. gg unistalling… cya gw2

Now i regret trying to get this in the first place….
The other stuff is either not so bad or even promotes you to take part in the festival for your glorious reward…. But as it stands don’t even want to do any of it anymore… Friggin gold gates…. I’d have to farm silverwhastes 24/7 to get that kinda money…

PS: achievement says onlys during wintersday…

go for hunan female t3 meta

i hear druids do pretty well on celestial.

What i don’t like about them are the automated turrets and this allmost skyhammer’ish fixation on ai that knocks players into hot stuff or down some cliffs.
Who ever thought that was fun?

There is also the argument of 3 and 1/3rd armorsets…

PWNtrooper.8617:

Gyro’s toolbelts are pretty useful.

fix’d

There have been heaps of topics about this already. This most passive and in lots of cases entirely useless trait is obviously intended great design promoting active and visual gameplay with lots of options for counterplay available to good players.

In short play cele bunker.

Its a nice build based on gyros and burn.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/thopter-foundry-origins-ready/
No sry doesn’t work in gw2.

What do you play for on a daily basis?
Like what do you hope to achieve by sinking hours into the game?
You have all the gear you ever wanted?
What is left but fashion?

Wolfeng.3784:

For so little content?

- 4 maps that are just pretending to be huge. You will find yourself punished with less “participation” just because you decided to explore the map rather than do the linear events. And because your participation was so low, you get just the basic of basic of rewards.
Oh and remember to repeat that for every single map until you get the rewards from the vendors.

- Elite specs that force certain classes in specific roles. Good luck playing that power ranger as a druid… HAH. There goes the " We don’t like trinity system" talk.

- Have I mentioned that there’s only a few armor and weapons sets that are new? Really little stuff compared to the original game at launch. And if you consider the amount of Black Lion weapons that could’ve been a part of the expansion, its really disappointing – Pact weapons, Mordrem Weapons, Improvised weapons, to name a few.

- tl,dr: Do not buy HoT now, wait for a sale, it offers to little and what it offers is disappointing. I would feel better had I paid $20, instead of $50.

I’d second this.
Unless you are a total sucker for the game i’d reccommend you wait for some more content/ look for a sale.

Silvatar.5379:

Don’t get me wrong, I am all for more free skins to choose from. Fashion Wars can be fun. But seriously, the game already had tons of free (or easy to obtain) skin options, more than most games. So what’s the problem?

As for Black Lion skins, I have no problem with them. Why? ….because you DON’T need them. Anet is a business, and as such they have to make money some how. I would rather they pack the gem store with cosmetic stuff than something necessary like an ascended mat and turn this into a pay-to-win game like most “free-to-play” games. Players should be praising Anet for this not QQ’ing. Too many black lion skins is only an issue for those that are easily distracted by…

….oh look, something shiny!!

Thing is… ppl kinda paid for the expansion. Adding new gearsets seems kinda appropriate…. I don’t think people would be hating on all the new cash shop stuff if the expansion had not been so lackluster in the fashion department…..

You dont play with gyros you play despite them.

Roaming or wvw in general without the alchemy tree is not a great idea. You need it to deal with all the condi spam.

I usually play with alchemy firearms and tools. Healing Turret, Flamethrower, Toolkit(or bombs), elixir s and mortar(or elixir x)

Flamethrower gives you obscene burst. TK gives you active defense while the bomb kit adds damage. Elixir S is vital because stealth still rules roaming. Mortar is overall pretty usefull and kinda makes up for the lack of grenades. Elixir x on the other hand is basicly a kill combo if you land the toolbelt right after applying lots of burns.

Since you absolutely want TK and BK you could drop the FT and see how you roll with that.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAqalUUhatYJXw+KQ7FLsFF4HWiBgYHNFPxYOOG/IA-T1RHABVs/Qhq/cnSQBOBAopHAgHAwRK/AA-w

No armorset for raids…. just the first part of a precursor collection…. and more outfits…. and more outfits…. Idk what to play for anymore…

@Tobias Trueflight
delicious salt

He came in without an argument and left without one. What’a waste.

Sorry dude ain’t gonna do any more pea counting. Count or don’t count whatever u feel like. My argument stands.

So your argument is that we have lots of skins in the base game so there is no need to add some in expansion? I don’t agree at all, quite the contrary. Fashion is a core pillar to gw2. Not expanding it in an expansion is laughable.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

We did get a decent armor selection to begin with. I listed them all off for you.

I am obviously talking about HoT

@Tobias Trueflight
Comparing what HoT gave us is the very point here. All of HoT is less than 50% of what dungeons give us.
If they had given us a decent armor selection to begin with they could have added ten new outfits in the cash shop daily for all i care. But the way it is now this just seems overly greedy and takes out a good portion of the content that people aspire to get in GW2.

As stated above its all a matter of how you count the peas. My mesmer got 3 new armors and 3 new armorsets. But even if you want to count them differently its still a laughable content addition for an expansion.
If you like outfits better than actual armorsets thats fine i’m not knocking your opinion even though i dont agree.

@Tobias Trueflight
You put them on your body and it changes your look. They defenitely fulfill the same purpose. There is everything about them to be compared. Except one is like a cheap 1 seat car and the other one is a nice one with 6 seats. Basicly we used to get real nice cars now they pump out the cheap ones instead of giving us real fashion content.

@Behellagh
So you are basicly trolling because you don’t like the way i phrased my statement? plz kid grow up.

@CureForLiving
The thing is that some people who have played this game for a long time have gotten used to having fashion as an endgoal for doing just about anything in the game. Sure i love the new zones, adventures, guild halls, pvp mode and even the new WvW map. Its just like there is a fundamental motivation lacking to do any of this content.

@Selkirk
I do believe you’re on point about the F2P/gemstore thing.

@Kormeg
This pretty much. The facts don’t lie.

I think brazil’s way of measuring theoretical dps is MUCH better than using a spreadsheet. Kill the target golem 10 times, post your rotation your time and your buffs. Its easily accessible and can also be verified by any player who is interrested.

All this spreadsheet math which is never obtainable and may or may not be correct in its calculation including skill lag and aftercats is long overdue.

@Tom Gore
Sure you can but that won’t make it any more content.

@Tobias Trueflight
Yes outfits are an abomination introduced with the wardrobe system and basicly a cheap way for anet to make a quick buck. Armors require a decent amount of work and give players much more than any outfit ever could.

Also sure i’ll include the legendary armor that we get the first part of the precursor for. Betcha by the time we get the actual armor we will have gotten 6 new outfits…

Ok im being real here. All those guys who say that ascended does not matter are kinda lying through their teeth. Full ascended over full exotic gives you something like an 18% increase in effectivness. Not going for that is like gimping yourself. Now more than ever since you can stat swap acended armor and weapons.
Yes that armor itsself does not give much in the way of raw stats but you do get a very nice defense boost.
Also i would reccomend you go and farm your brain out at the silverw(h)astes right now!
When raids are out this stuff will be even more expensive since everyone and their mom is gonna try to make ascended armor.

As stated above, if you want to count each armor class then do the same for the base game and the same comparison stands. It literly doesnt matter which way you count the peas.

For what it matters anet themselves call it 2 new sets.
http://heartofthorns.guildwars2.com/game/maguuma/