Guild Wars 2

Ascended gear costs should probably be adjusted towards more badges, less laurels (double or triple the badges cost, half the laurels cost…something along those lines).

But the introduction of the WvW Rank rewards chest is certainly a “proper reward.” Not to mention the fact they are rewarding previously-achieved ranks, which is something you rarely see in MMOs. I do think drop rate/quality for general WvW kills should be increased, this is definitely a step in the right direction.

Why is “too much math” a problem?

Do you know how much of the world/universe is driven by math? (hint: all of it)

Deniara Devious.3948:

Out of all the 8 professions I have played thief probably has the best survivability (together with mesmer). And let me explain why:

All WvW guilds: please replace your bunker Guardians with Thieves. Your success is guaranteed (disclaimer: success not guaranteed).

Victory.2879:

Yes, thiefs are balanced- they can also do more damage at ranged than rangers using a bow

[Citation needed]

Nordic Natedog.4360:

That is because they mostly run glass cannon builds. If they had less stealth, they would have to use more skill and probably run more defense like other professions need to do.

“They would have to use more skill?” Did you actually mean to say “more access to Protection and forms of Invulnerability?”

Warrior: Enure Pain, Defy Pain and Shield Stance, only class in Heavy Armor+High HP categories
Guardian: Renewed Focus, multiple sources of Protection
Ranger: Protect Me, multiple sources of Protection
Engineer: Gear Shield, multiple sources of Protection
Ele: Mist Form, multiple sources of Protection
Necro: don’t even have to specify durability here
Mesmer: distortion, clone spawning, multiple sources of Protection

Feel free to verify that Thief has essentially zero access to either of these categories:

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Invulnerability
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Protection

Contiguous.1345:

However you look at it, one keypress is faster than a keypress and a mouseclick.

A double keypress is also an option.

While your statement is true, the total time spent on a double-keypress is still very small (doubling a tiny amount of time is still a tiny amount of time). While in theory you gain an advantage using fast-cast, in practice the difference is negligible and often can be detrimental (no one is perfect, although of course this works both ways).

Edit: I would be negligent in failing to mention I loved your comparison between fast-cast on/off and Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle <3

MrShaunWilson.1502:

Many people do not use the fast-cast option because the ring is missing. Despite trying to retrain them, they are inefficient with this config. Often pulling u-turn, overrun and straight-strafing tactics to lay anything down reasonably well.

I think for these players that need the visual assistance it would be cool, and they would start to play way more efficiently.

Yeah, players like Teldo are just awful because they don’t use fast-cast and “need the ring.”

Next, you’re going to tell us your keybind setup is superior to all others and makes you more efficient.

TLDR; stop being myopic.

I like YB They have some really good roamers.

Bedazzle.5746:

lol…you’re not going to take a supply camp as a solo WvW roamer. You may take a Dolyak…but once you meet up with with the zerg or that group of 3-5…your roaming is over.

Not sure if serious or just terrible.

Darius Glazkov.9750:

i’m still trying to decide which one of you two should be the new mascot for our threads. both of you are quite silly (read: delusional).

I vote CHIPS. Sol just seems out of touch with reality (see: nonsensical rants) and thus, is an unstable element. CHIPS take this game too seriously (see: Necro Encyclopedia) and will be a more stable Pillar of Truth and Justice.

After reading this thread, I have concluded that the OP’s account name is not fitting.

Calvin.5380:

lol so nobody was ready to pay for your transfers, and you came on forums to save face? People can differentiate between in-game skill and forum skill, you know. lol!

The analytically challenged. It’s a plague upon humanity.

New suggested playlist:

Soulja Boy – Turn My Swag On
The Lonely Island – YOLO
Rebecca Black – Friday
Justin Bieber – Baby
Carly Rae Jepsen – Call Me Maybe
Psy – Gangnam Style

kipz.8701:

mounting cannons on top of dolyaks in wubwub.

ANet: please make this happen…

VOLKON.1290:

cannon firing dolyaks at people?

and this…

Boomstin.3460:

Awesome! Now we only need sharks with laser beams attached to their heads to guard the keeps!

and this.

Please <3

Ungood.3054:

Thiefs are the ultimate troll class.
…

“We” killed him. LOL.[/quote]

This is perhaps the longest post I’ve seen where someone has claimed X is OP, multiple times, but didn’t once specify exactly how or why X is OP.

Well done, sir.

CLICKS.5986:

But roamers that just gank people trying to regroup is so incredibly frustrating and does nothing for WvW except give them a quick way to get badges.

How is cutting off reinforcements / delaying a zerg from regrouping “doing nothing for WvW?”

Do you just want a direct teleport to the commander of your choice?

koopatroopa.5360:

Whenever I look at the lower part of the wvw pie chart I see a demon eating a hotdog.

Who’s with me?

Cannot unsee.

Nyx Xox.3540:

Xirin.8593:

CNB on KN BL Bay…I hope it was good for you too <3

Lmao. Thieves are always such a pain to find in a keep..normally we just leave you but since your mesmer friends dead body sat in the water we weren’t having it. lol Would have been such an awesome job if you guys succeeded in taking bay though haha. We gave you a proper burial at the end though <3

It was all in good fun And yeah that burial had me cracking up.

CNB on KN BL Bay…I hope it was good for you too <3

I just pick “botting.”

I Deschain I.4623:

Burnfall.9573:

Kittenish kitten.

You sound a bit mad, buddy.

All of his posts are much ado about nothing.

Thaia.5146:

I’m currently rank 13 WvW. Rhetorical question: will I get my 13 chests after the update?

How is that a rhetorical question?

Assuming that it is an actual question: you’ll get those 13 chests, one a time, as a bonus chest during your next 13 WvW rank increases.

Niim.9260:

So I saw this and began hitting my head into the nearest wall:

OP got trolled by ANet. Have you not figured out that ANet trolls constantly in GW2? Item names, NPC names/dialog, news/press releases, etc.

Maybe this update will finally stop the complainers…

Timelord.8190:

We still need laurels? This sucks. I hate to do these boring dailies for ascended.

…well, maybe not.

In either case, thanks to Devon and the rest of the team. Looks like this will be an awesome update.

povV.5681:

ParaldaWind.4523:

Chips, Sol, Jinks, Calvin, or Bunzy.

Who wins?

id have to take either Sol ( since he is immune from being banned somehow ), or Calvin. Calvin has got to kitten kitten kitten kitten with a bag of kittens. that guy…wow. its a close race

Calvin. You cannot kill that which has no life.

BossFi.6917:

Major problem with camps is that all the upgrades are worthless as its still too easy for 2+ players to take it!

How many players should be required to take an upgraded camp?

Successful troll is successful.

ExZee.8109:

Yet another example of exactly how much testing is done before something is implemented.

Thumbs up.

Do you know how long it would take to test all of the implications of every individual change?

Zosk.5609:

I don’t believe combat in this game is even complex enough for people to “outplay” others at a level they can kill many times their number, to be perfectly honest.

You underestimate just how terrible some people are at this game. Especially your average zerger (not all zergers).

Keyboard turners. Skill clicking with mouse. Panic when fighting 1v1. Many people have admitted to these things on this very forum. While this is just a game and that is nothing to be ashamed of, it is still very telling as to why sometimes 15 can beat 30, 5 can beat 10, 1 can beat 3.

TinkTinkPOOF.9201:

HeNnAz.8913:

Get a new computer?
Mine is great for WvW, max graphics runs WvW zerg v zerg at like 90 FPS… only 900$

Very, very doubtful.

Maybe he plays on the computers at CERN

Oh, wait…he said it only cost $900. Yeah, I find this to be highly unlikely.

I’m kind of piling on at this point, but OP: your computer is not very good.

Malediktus.9250:

big difference, your server is ranked last, ours is tier 1 in europe. If people are like that on your server its no wonder it is where it is.

This post certainly put the original/first post into perspective.

robocafaz.9017:

I caught Kaineng guys using cosmetic hacks today. They were way more stylish than the game client normally allows you to. I’d post screen shots and videos but I won’t post screen shots or videos. Everyone knows you guys can’t color-coordinate so you have to rely on cheats in order to be fabulous. Good thing I can stomp all you guys in a 1-on-1 walk-off but every time I find you your entire zerg of people with matching hats comes and vogues all over me. Just goes to show how lame Kaineng is that they need to use an entire zerg just to out-catwalk me LOL

If any of you want to 1-on-1 vogue meet at the Fashion Club atop the catwalks of the Skritt tunnels at Northeast Mag BL.

Catwalks of the Skirtt tunnels….brilliant. Can’t +1 this enough.

jaegerx.1693:

Sol.8341:

Maybe it’s because by shining a spotlight on hackers and educating the masses how to identify them, we can achieve a healthier and more gun WvWvW experience. For the hackers, it will be hell thou. Dun need to get too defensive, I didn’t say it was you.

Sol.8341 the hero we need but we don’t deserve.

I read Sol’s post in Cartman’s superhero (coo…n is censored) voice. Fit perfectly.

Ungood.3054:

Xirin.8593:

Ungood.3054:

Oozo.7856:

Ungood.3054:

You have the top tiers, they would be called the varsity (lets say T 1 – 3) It is not because they better skilled, or better players, but because they put more effort into it or simply just transferred over. They play after school, every day, and work on becoming the best they can be at what they do or they just transfer over.

There we go, I fixed it for you.

Are the transfers worse then the existing residents? Not sure what you are trying to say with this.

You originally stated that T1-T3 players “put more effort into it” to get to T1-T3.

This ignores the fact that you used to be able to transfer for free, and can today just pay X amount of gold, to join a T1-T3 server. That doesn’t require any effort, skill, dedication, etc.

Well they also put more effort to stay where they are as well. Even if you transfer up, you still need to step up and get your game on to be in T 1 – 3. You can’t walk into the top tiers and play like you are still in T8, per say.

You can put in effort, but you don’t have to. You can literally just pay X gold, transfer to T1-T3, and now you are a member of the “elite” tiers. That’s the premise of Oozo’s post and my clarification.

JaNordy.6149:

Good one Kaineng

LOL @ the emote spamming after 5+ run over 1 guy. Kaineng Squire [CNB], sir, you are one bad mama jama. No lie.

It’s like we’re fighting Crystal Desert again.

I have all 8 professions at 80, utilizing all 5 races (3x Human, 2x Asura, 1x everything else).

In hindsight, I wish I had made them all Asura. Armor just looks so good on them, for all armor types. I’m just glad I made my Thief an Asura.

Ungood.3054:

Oozo.7856:

Ungood.3054:

You have the top tiers, they would be called the varsity (lets say T 1 – 3) It is not because they better skilled, or better players, but because they put more effort into it or simply just transferred over. They play after school, every day, and work on becoming the best they can be at what they do or they just transfer over.

There we go, I fixed it for you.

Are the transfers worse then the existing residents? Not sure what you are trying to say with this.

You originally stated that T1-T3 players “put more effort into it” to get to T1-T3.

This ignores the fact that you used to be able to transfer for free, and can today just pay X amount of gold, to join a T1-T3 server. That doesn’t require any effort, skill, dedication, etc.

Deniara Devious.3948:

.- Revert the revealed back to 4 seconds in WvWvW. 3 seconds is too short considering the size of the map and chaotic nature of the combat.

No. ANet got this one right from the start, nerfed it, and then realized their mistake and corrected it.

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- Currently sword #2 (infiltrator’s strike/shadow return) allows unlimited range teleport.…This should be reduced to max 1200 range*.

Agreed.

- Reduce the amount of stealth you can get from combo fields.

I don’t have an opinion on this since I don’t consider it an issue at all. If it was nerfed I can’t say I would give it a second thought.

- Larcenous strike is a bit too good at the moment. Either increase its initiative cost or make is steal only 1 boon.

It’s a little too early to judge this skill. What we’re seeing is a brand new toy in an environment that has been pretty static for almost 8 months, so it is enjoying overwhelming usage and players are having to adapt to a new dynamic. I would give it at least a month before we can see if it truly needs to be changed.

- Stealth stomp should not work. This should of course affect all professions e.g. mesmers and engineers also denied of doing stealth stomps.

It’s hard to gauge the effect this would have without “real world” implementation, but my initial thought it that this would only promote the zerging mentality; it’s already hard enough to get a stomp off before 3-4 players revive the guy you just downed. Reviving while stealthed/invul/etc would probably have to be looked at to maintain balance.

Oozo.7856:

However, I’ve watched a lot of their movies and I see quite a lot of mouse-clicking and not utilizing all of their abilities.

*eye twitch

I have seen what you speak of, sir. It is the stuff of nightmares.

Brassnautilus.2941:

ski.4927:

My sentiments exactly…

Dreamer = for girls
Bolt = nice looking weapon, but I don’t use swords
Incinerator = looks like a butane torch, but is pretty nice
Quip = Like dreamer, feels like we’re being trolled by Anet…

you gotta be a real thief to appreciate quip

I definitely agree with this statement. Thief is all about trolling (well, at least sometimes) and Quip/Dreamer are the ultimate troll weapons. I love them both and would take either over Incinerator/Bolt in a heartbeat.

Kincaidia.3192:

I have having this happen this week – so I dusted off the ol’ berserker set and invested in 6 Runes of the Scholar…

d+d / sb
*25/30/0/0/10*
25 stacks of +10 power sigil
utility = +25% move, +power, +init regen

Go back to your Traits menu, you’re missing 5 trait points!

Oozo.7856:

So, there are basically four playstyles at the moment (the numbers are just rough guidelines).
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This is by far the most accurate assessment of the WvW population I have seen. Excellent post.

Faeyd.5094:

Are folks able to small scale / solo / duo on this server set?

Short answer: Yes. Very much so.

Long answer: I have become increasingly annoyed at any form of lag, so I have been completely avoiding zergs as much as I can (except when sleepy and then I ride the WEXP trains). Last night, Mag had a presence on KNG BL and I was getting a fraction of a second delay, so I switched to YB BL which was completely owned by YB at the time.

The south area of the zone was swarming with YB spawn camping Mag and fighting with the small KNG presence. So I snuck up to the northeast camp and capped it solo. I killed quite a few YBs that would stream into the camp area 1 or 2 at a time. I was soon joined by a guildmate and we held the camp for at least 30 min. Eventually we were overrun by 8-10 and had to retreat. We retook the camp, and this cycle repeated a few times over about 2 hours.

During that time we had a fantastic skirmish of us, plus 2 other Mag, against 6-8 YB (a bunch of which were from YB’s WAR guild) in the area to the south between Hills and the camp.

I don’t know if this type of WvW appeals to you, but Tier 3 in its current state is perfect for it. Not always on the weekends, due to the higher populations, but during the week this type of play is common place.

While the Dreamer is indeed girly, what with the rainbows and unicorns, I feel that it is the ultimate trolling weapon even beyond Quip.

Last night, I actually had a Yak’s Bend Guardian alt-f4/logout after I downed him (no idea why since you still get the bag). I can only imagine the increased rage he would have had if I had been pewpew’ing him with rainbows and unicorns.

Fjandi.2516:

randomfightfan.4091:

Btw, don’t get CoE bows, they look so plain.

I disagree, sir

Those eyes…

OP: that is the longest troll post I have ever seen. Well done.

Johje Holan.4607:

Fade.7658:

AidanTaylor.3872:

Hey folks,

It seems we inadvertently outed (some of) our plans for WvW with the above linked page. While we are looking to extend World XP changes for WvW in a later content patch, it still needs some tweaking and therefore isn’t ready to be introduced in this one.

We can however officially let you know we are moving the jumping puzzle for EB into it’s own map, as this has been a much requested feature for our beloved siege fairing community.

Apologies for the hicup

Just the fact that you guys at Anet are even considering this sort of thing, shows how out of touch you really are with the WvW community. Instead of adding crap that no one asked for, or will improve the experience, hire someone that can listen to the community, and come up with stuff/fixes that will make WvW better.

I really can’t wait for TESO and Camelot Unleashed. Sadly, CU is a long, long way away. Hopefully, those at TESO will come up with something that’s fun, and has long term enjoyment.

Gimme a break. There is no one community. Look around these forums.

For every person who suggests something, someone else hates it.

For every complaint, there’s someone who comments that they disagree and like that aspect.

They do play the game. They do listen to the community except the community has multiple personalities.

Awesome post.

Silas.8630:

Rimu.7105:

@Pod. True combat healer was a bit much, but it was inside the realm of possibility

Wait, people actually had trouble getting Combat Healer? And here I thought that was the title all the noobs used because it’s the only one you unlock without even trying…

I can’t tell if the original post was being sarcastic or not. In either case, Combat Healer was ridiculously easy to get. I’m pretty sure it only took a couple weeks of casual play at launch to get it. Between rezing all the other newbies and the NPCs at Hearts/DEs, it certainly didn’t take very long.

Isaac.6041:

DevonCarver.5370:

Terrahero.9358:

DevonCarver.5370:

That’s also what was the impetus for removing the crafting stations. The more time people spend in the maps not playing WvW, the longer the queues are.

I take it this means you will be removing Jumping Puzzles from WvW aswell… you know, people jumping around not doing WvW… Just to “earn” badges without actually having to fight or contribute. Taking up slots.

Now that would have a far greater impact of removing deadweigth players from WvW than removing crafting stations, while being a far smaller bother to your actual WvW community.

I wonder if we can even do that… :P The EB JP is coming out for the May 14th release.

Great. WvW just got more boring.

It’s getting its own map/zone so it doesn’t interfere with EB’s queues. I would assume (hopefully not incorrectly) that you will still be able to PvP there.