If you have an Nvidia card past the 600 series.. You now have access to Shadowplay in the new Nvidia Drivers, Basically your card has a built in recorder in it that’s not been used since now.
Shadowplay acts like Fraps, only its a 1000x better in that it doesn’t make you take a hit to your FPS (as someone who used fraps, ill be using shadowplay from now on)
It also gives you access to the Shadowplay feature, which is, while your playing the card is constantly saving upwards to 10 minutes in windows 7, and 20 in windows 8 of footage, if you get in an awesome fight, you can simply hit Alt-F10 and it’ll saved the last 10 minutes of whatever you was playing to video.
That’s cool. Too bad I am still using a GTX 260. :P
if you havent played in 2 months how the hell can you know what you are talking about. its easy to see that when you talk about a defensive amulet since lb/hammer warriors go zerker amulet. and i dare you to find me a testimony of a recognized high tier player saying warriors are fine.
and its funny because you’re part of the “low rank” you are talking about.
I’m part of the low rank? How do you figure? I was like 95% or higher in team queue when queuing only solo. As for solo queue, I gave up shortly after it was implemented because I kept getting grouped with bad players (I see better players in hotjoin). lol
Bet you $20.00 Defektive would tell you Warrior is fine, but it seems most of the good teams have quit, likely more due to condition spam than what you would have people believe.
Hi, I duo queued to rank 200-220(euteamqboard) when first free trial period was out. I’m currently rank 2 on eu teamqueue (could play 1 game and get rank one if i wanted), Have peaked @ 1 on EU Teamqueue, 8 on EU soloqueue, 1 on NA soloqueue and 118th on NA teamqueue. With these credentials being said, I think warriors are op. Good day.
Credentials are worthless if you can’t post a solid argument. WHY do you think they’re OP?
I posted credentials as this guy thought they were important, it’s 9am and I haven’t slept. Maybe I should do something with math sometime today. Could be fun. But right now I’d say the only class with a comparable heal was probably the engineer in terms of healing amount with lowest healing power.
Actually know, I don’t think they are important. I was simply defending myself when I was called a “low tier” player or whatever. You also didn’t prevent any valid argument, you just poked your head in and blabbed on about your rank and how YOU think warrior is overpowered because you were able to achieve rank fairly easily. Just so you know, if you get a couple lucky games when you first start out you can scale the ranks fairly easily in solo queue and push yourself into the decent player area of the boards. Once you are in the top 100 or so it is much easier to stay there (or progress) considering the way matchmaking currently works. I was top 25 at one point but I just let it slide and slide and eventually when I tried to play got bad teams and dropped more, then let it slide and slide some more. Mostly because I just don’t care.
You don’t think they are important, but just a few posts back you said only wvwers and low tier players complain of warriors. You say you got to top 25, explain me how with a 57/63 record on team queue and a 19/25 record on solo queue (and have you considered that maybe you got bad players in your team because you are bad aswell?). You say you are an experienced player, yet you haven’t played tpvp in this game’s current state, so how can you know jackkitten?
You’re that kind of guy that steps into arguments spewing out unfounded opinions just for the sake of looking smart.
I said low rank players as in sPvP rank or NEW TO THE GAME and don’t understand the mechanics, not talking about ranking. Also, I would say the players you encounter in WvW are at least 25-50% worse on average than hotjoin sPvP players, so that is what I meant by that.
Also, math for healing skills? What a joke. You can’t just say “oh, healing signet is better than blah blah because the number is higher” there are other factors that are taken into account than just the raw numbers on a healing spell as far as class balance is concerned. For instance, you people like to say blah blah war heal better than guardian heal wahhhhhh, but at the same time you don’t stop to consider that guardian has access to protection and warrior doesn’t etc.
if you havent played in 2 months how the hell can you know what you are talking about. its easy to see that when you talk about a defensive amulet since lb/hammer warriors go zerker amulet. and i dare you to find me a testimony of a recognized high tier player saying warriors are fine.
and its funny because you’re part of the “low rank” you are talking about.
I’m part of the low rank? How do you figure? I was like 95% or higher in team queue when queuing only solo. As for solo queue, I gave up shortly after it was implemented because I kept getting grouped with bad players (I see better players in hotjoin). lol
Bet you $20.00 Defektive would tell you Warrior is fine, but it seems most of the good teams have quit, likely more due to condition spam than what you would have people believe.
Hi, I duo queued to rank 200-220(euteamqboard) when first free trial period was out. I’m currently rank 2 on eu teamqueue (could play 1 game and get rank one if i wanted), Have peaked @ 1 on EU Teamqueue, 8 on EU soloqueue, 1 on NA soloqueue and 118th on NA teamqueue. With these credentials being said, I think warriors are op. Good day.
Credentials are worthless if you can’t post a solid argument. WHY do you think they’re OP?
I posted credentials as this guy thought they were important, it’s 9am and I haven’t slept. Maybe I should do something with math sometime today. Could be fun. But right now I’d say the only class with a comparable heal was probably the engineer in terms of healing amount with lowest healing power.
Actually no, I don’t think they are important. I was simply defending myself when I was called a “low tier” player or whatever. You also didn’t present any valid argument, you just poked your head in and blabbed on about your rank and how YOU think warrior is overpowered because you were able to achieve rank fairly easily. Just so you know, if you get a couple lucky games when you first start out you can scale the ranks fairly easily in solo queue and push yourself into the decent player area of the boards. Once you are in the top 100 or so it is much easier to stay there (or progress) considering the way matchmaking currently works. I was top 25 at one point but I just let it slide and slide and eventually when I tried to play got bad teams and dropped more, then let it slide and slide some more. Mostly because I just don’t care.
Bet you $20.00 Defektive would tell you Warrior is fine, but it seems most of the good teams have quit, likely more due to condition spam than what you would have people believe.
And I know a lot of Warriors are disgusted with what the class has become, after having to be at such a high skill level before.
That’s more like, “oh wahhh we don’t have our unique and special little snowflake that an entire team has to build around to even make it work wahhh”. They thought they were unique for playing what was considered bad unless your team was built around it and even then was a slight hindrance for the most part. Now that the class is actually useful outside of a team being built to focus around it, they are annoyed. Anyway, it doesn’t matter. Anet is likely going to nerf warrior just because you kids whine for it on a daily basis. I don’t plan to stick around after Wildstar releases anyway. This game really isn’t skill based enough for my taste, but I guess at least it isn’t as “build wars” as GW1.
if you havent played in 2 months how the hell can you know what you are talking about. its easy to see that when you talk about a defensive amulet since lb/hammer warriors go zerker amulet. and i dare you to find me a testimony of a recognized high tier player saying warriors are fine.
and its funny because you’re part of the “low rank” you are talking about.
I’m part of the low rank? How do you figure? I was like 95% or higher in team queue when queuing only solo. As for solo queue, I gave up shortly after it was implemented because I kept getting grouped with bad players (I see better players in hotjoin). lol
Bet you $20.00 Defektive would tell you Warrior is fine, but it seems most of the good teams have quit, likely more due to condition spam than what you would have people believe.
We have to slot extra stunbreakers because of “warrior meta” (seriously, people call this meta “WARRIOR” and you think it’s fine?), we have to be careful of our position. And while we do this most warriors just tunnel, and tunnel and tunnel some more.
and warriors also have to slot stunbreakers, as well as specialize their build around condition removal and work with what they have. Even warrior runes are nearly always condition removal or reduction. In order to be able to withstand to an extent the insane amount of conditions spammed off in this game I have to dedicate 20 points into defense (and both traits there) as well as use either Hoelbrak, Melandru, or Lyssa Runes and even that isn’t really enough. I still have to take Berserker Stance to give myself some breathing room and use a defensive amulet generally (for higher health and of course toughness to help lesson spike damage). If I have to do all of this just to deal with condition spam, and don’t forget that warrior has to be right in the middle of where the spam is happening in a lot of team fights, why shouldn’t you have to slot a stunbreaker, or some stability, or make a better build than pew pew spam expecting to win.
Dude, you havent played a team queue since june and you haven’t played a solo queue since august… thats some experienced player…. And you come here with your “hurr im experienced and a good playerr hurr hurr”, seriously…
That’s it, i give up from this thread lol most people posting here dont even play tpvp….
Just because I haven’t played tPvP in a bit because I was playing FF XIV and just came back doesn’t mean I don’t know what I am talking about. From what I hear from tPvP players is warrior is fine. The whining usually comes from WvW and low rank sPvP players. Also, solo queue is a joke with current matchmaking so who cares about that?
Generally speaking, in a multi-profession forum like this, any time that someone who mains a profession speaks out against nerfing said profession, its going to be met with a bit of “of course you don’t want your own OP class nerfed”. This is a bit more pronounced when we look at how Warriors are right now, how Necros were with Dhuumfire, how Rangers have been numerous times, how D/D Eles were, etc, and how every time there were players defending what was obviously overpowered to everyone else.
It always happens, and usually the true hardcore fanbase of the profession always hates when it happens, because they don’t want to be OP. But then you get flooded with rerollers who are complete morons and just want the new OP, and insist that after 10 games they totally know the build isn’t OP.
Happened with every build above, is happening now with Warriors.
Also, warriors have a few legitimately too strong of builds. Takes less than ten seconds of looking around to see that they dominate the meta right now, for good reason.
Except, I am an experienced player telling you that warrior is fine. Sure, I can tear apart an inexperienced player who doesn’t know how to counter a warrior, but for the players that actually know what they are doing it is a pretty fair fight and many times not in the warriors favor. I’m sorry you have to actually use a stunbreaker for I don’t know, breaking stuns? I’m sorry you can’t run a pure DPS build with no utility and expect to win against crowd control, neither can warrior. I’m sorry you actually have to kite something instead of just standing in one spot and mashing your ranged attacks. Generally the majority of complaints are new players and user error. I jumped on my thief the other day just because I hadn’t played him in a while and really didn’t have much problem at all with warriors, even “hambow”. I was also actively searching every one of them out on the map and generally ignoring other players just to see if any really could beat me. Only time they really did is if they got help and I didn’t feel like running away, if I wanted to escape I easily could.
you obviously never played a half good engineer. Run in circles spamming the ground, swap to pistol if they get too far, spam every condition there is, drop bombs for AoE knockback and have a 50% up time swiftness and and massive regen with reflect and block and more skills than any other player…yet some how you think warrior is O.P.
You mean a tournament level engineer like Ostrich Eggs?
However, warriors require now much less attention to play well.
IMHO warriors might not be too strong, but just too easy. And a class that is too easy to play is far less vulnerable.
Maybe making Healing Signet harder, or improving BOTH risk and reward connected, you might fix this.
According to Anet, Warrior is the standard of what all classes should be. I would expect for your builds to get more simplified and streamlined in the future.
To my perspective from what I play I don’t find warriors OP in any way. That being said this is still more counter play BS where your rock beats their sciccors because you have a 85% chance to win because of your class and build, and that 15% skill makes up for almost nothing.
(%’s showing a vague approximation with no real study or plugged numbers. However is a closely accurate state of affairs)
On that I will agree. Do you think I like being the punching bag of every mesmer with half a brain? Although, many classes really have more of chance than they would like you to believe vs warrior, they just refuse to slot and trait the way they should (refusal to change) or are bad players in general.
Why don’t we just admit that people in GW2 hate melee classes? Anything that is up in your face whacking you with a weapon and forcing you to create distance or kite gets perceived as overpowered. Even before the warrior buffs I had people regularly tell me warrior was overpowered after they got spanked. I ran A/M Hammer for the most part.
meditation guard. Reset traits to 30-1-30-0-0. Divinity runes
use greatsword-mace/focus
learn to animation skip mace 2 ward
Too many blocks. Too many blinds. Too much burning. They perish.
First time I heard someone afraid of dying to a guard due to burning, honestly.
1 block every 15 seconds, and 1 aegis every 45 seconds, so in 60 seconds you got about 5-6 blocks? Throw in a well timed shelter for another 5 maybe, that would be at least 10 seconds of burning. Burning will do a minimum of 328 damage a tick and we will say a modest 500 damage if they put some into condition damage. So that is 3280-5000 damage in 10 seconds, every 60 seconds.
Sounds like a killer.
Unless you didn’t mean the burning on block, and just burns in general, then it is still about 328-500 damage and every 5th hit, or for 5 seconds in a 30s cooldown.
Well, actually, I used to run a Guardian burn build that was just nasty at killing most classes, but I quit playing Guardian because it didn’t really fit my playstyle. Not sure if it works these days as I haven’t played Guardian in a while and most I run into are either bunker or tripple med, but it did at one point.
Every time I read someone complain that Warrior is OP I see it translated by my brain as :
“I’m really bad. I don’t bring stun breakers, or waste them if I do. I also waste all my dodges on auto attacks. I can’t survive for even 8 seconds and waste all my CC during that 8 second immunity.”
So, even though I have played warrior and thief since beta and have nearly 2,300 sPvP games I get no opinion because I play a warrior? I have played pretty much every class in the game for at least a little bit of time (except engineer I believe) and have around 800 games on my thief and nearly 1,100 on my warrior. I think my lowest played class is probably Elementalist with around 20-30 games. I also have nearly 100 games as Guardian and ~ 200 as Ranger. I think I am more than qualified to speak on balance concerns.
Also, Hi Zek. Played with you a few days ago and I am also from JQ.
The nerf threads will continue until the nerf comes. Look at thieves, they got a full year worth of nerfs and the threads still come up. I’d make my own nerf warrior thread if every aspect of it hadn’t already been covered in other posts. They have too much sustain on 1v1 sidepoint fights.
Says the guy who plays two of the strongest classes vs warrior? Sounds like user error to me.
Maby something for Evilek.5690 too make a pvp video of that OP build
mace/shield + greatsword 0/10/30/30/0
(his words: 2x endurance pain,many block,enemy controls and best mobility in game)
and
(0 10 30 30 0 WOW I have 2x endurance pain,passive cleanse condition,banner regen,stun or imobil and -3 conditions every 10 sec and massive condition dmg “sweet”)
So in skill slot: 1x endure pain and banner, yes a banner..
-3 conditions every 10sec (on mace/gs F1.. in melee range.. right)
-And massive condition damage on his mace???? lol
no fast hands.. no warriors sprint..
I am sure he means 2 different builds ofc :-) .. but that’s the point.
Evilek is talking about we got this.. we got that, and this and that and sooo much..
Yes well you cant have it all in 1 build.
Me post: 2x endurance pain,many block,enemy controls and best mobility in game is nothing for you ?
Sword+shield+GS=best mobility in game,massive condition dmg,Immobilized on 1 sec in spvp and 2 sec in WvWvW every 3 autoattack because Leg Specialist is broken,OP passive HP regen and 4200 armors in spvp and 4500+ in wvwvw.
Where I wrote mace+shield with a greatsword ? Please tell me.
Next time read before you write something.
You aren’t going to kill anything but very bad players (that you could kill with any class) with your theoretical builds. You are welcome to show me how wrong I am though.
My point stands, hambow didn’t work in tournies until healing signet buffs were in. That’s pretty bold to insinuate that players weren’t trying to make it work before that.
I’m not saying warriors weren’t overtuned, but I will argue they’re closer to the cliff of being useful than people realize.
Apologies. My point was that no one tried it after the buff for a couple months. I know people were trying desperately to make warriors work before the buffs, but they’re come a long, long way.
Actually there were quite a few people that played “Hambow” before the heal buff, and after. There were also builds like M/Sh GS, M/Sh H, Sw/Sh LB, and M/Sh Sw/M. You can check my posts from 3-4 months ago if you would like to see discussions on builds I was working on at the time. You can also check Defektives warrior meta thread from before the heal buffs, he was using Sw/Sh LB. I was personally testing burst mastery builds mostly, my favorite sets were M/Sh GS and M/Sh H. I knew that I had to land my attacks for my condition removal but preferred not to play LB generally.
Here is a warrior nerf I could agree on. Combustive shot must hit someone to proc Cleansing Ire, but I am not sure other warriors would agree. Really, that would just be to get the forums whiners to stop, not that it is really THAT strong that it deserves a nerf.
Also, what a lot of you people don’t take into account is that during this buffing process warrior also received a lot of nerfs, some major.. such as moving two important DPS traits to tier 3.
Check my post history for arguments, I am not wasting my time with you.
Funny. You have lost plenty of time defending warriors and checking excalibur post history and now, all of a sudden, you have no time to properly argumentate your claims?
You argument against Excalibur has always been the same you’re using in this topic (yes, I’ve checked your post history). You never had a proper argument with him, you always dismissed his opinion because you consider it not worth your attention for some reasons.
Not to say the huge amount of misinformations coming from your posts, such as that the Sigil fix was not warrior-related, despite the fact that even devs stated that it is warrior-related, and that S/D thieves are a counter to warriors while there is no real reason which would make someone with a brain believe that a glassy power-based profession has some chance against 3000 armor stun-heavy profession.
I would be really pleased to see the reasoning behind your statements but, sadly enough, they can’t be found anywhere.
I even found something about you blaming Excalibur asking for suggestions before starting to complain about Warriors, but I’m not going deeper into it. That says much by itself.
+1 to this. Its so easy to kite a warrior with necro, obviously. All you have to do is use your ready access to blocks, invulns, stability, and vigor to avoid his long CD CC, and then you use your conditions like fear, immobilize, cripple, and chill, which the warrior totally has no method of completely invalidating, and its practically like fighting a baby.
Warrior is fine. Warrior is destroyed by a competent mesmer and also loses to a competent thief or even a necro who knows how to kite or plays minion build. I will admit the majority of necros are pretty horrendous and just stand there and wait to be stunned, but that isn’t the point.
Ugh, you whiners are pushing me more and more towards Wildstar. Maybe players there won’t be so whiny. This is the absolute whiniest community I have ever seen in ANY MMO I have ever played, and I have been playing them for close to 16 years. Maybe it’s because generally I don’t play buy to play games where you just have to convince mommy to pick up the game for your birthday or something, but the maturity level on these forums and also in sPvP is the worst I have ever seen.
And yea, i’ve been argued all over these days. thing is warrior is good in pvp. but not OP.
in wvw? heck no. i usally don’t argue over it because i dont play wvw or atleast not on my warrior, then i made a meta build warrior in wvw. what is this a joke? 1st it does not do that much high of a damage, it never did.
2nd it’s dead when you see more then 3 people that are fully geared 80. as on my thief i can disengage OR even better i can bring one down before leaving.
cleansing ire simply doesn’t clean enough condi with all the condi meta, and zerker stance can easily be kit off in this huge open world, when in pvp, its more difficult.
and when you encounter a zerg, you are dead as well, on my thief i can easily leave without anyone touching me.
even the GS build is better then the meta pvp build of pvp, simply being the fact that it was the best build when warriors were free kills, when warriors needed to quick engage and disengage.
what a waste of gil and laurels for getting them lyssa and sigils and ascended for nothing.
why the kitten are you talking about wvw
Because over 70% of the kitten complaining about warrior OP every day IN PVP FORUMS are kitten wvwers who has nothing to do with pvp or do only a little bit, if you actually read the forum. not like they have any big accomplishment in wvw either
Pretty much true. Most of the complainers aren’t from sPvP, but they come post their complaints on the sPvP forums. It’s pretty ridiculous to be honest.
Pizza just stop, you dont play a warrior, how do i know this? Because what warrior in there right mind would want to have the changes you suggested go thru, unless playing a totaly broken class is your goal.
Please stop posting in this thread if you have nothing constructive to say.
He can post where he wants to post. Your suggestions are ludicrous and he has every right to say so.
It isn’t an “un-backed” up claim. I have enough experience on both warrior and thief to speak about this. I also know many good players who would tell you exactly the same thing. As for what he said specifically in this thread, that isn’t what matters. He is well known for it, as I have already said.
You should know that saying “I have experience” and “I have a friend who is a good player and he says so” are not good arguments.
Well known PvP players have said their opinion about warriors and that opinion isn’t “warriors are fine”. You can just check the top leaderboards and then the forum history of their accounts.
You are probably just disagreeing with him, but as far as I’ve seen no counter arguments from your side, it just looks that you are in denial.
Check my post history for arguments, I am not wasting my time with you.
No nerf needed. Up until a couple a months ago warriors were a joke to play. They got balanced and all of a sudden people who had been fighting this “weakest” class in the game were now losing battles to them. Warriors were always decent in wvw for condi cleanse and cc but in pvp they were a joke. Now that warriors have a decent meta people need to learn to fight warriors. Want to know how to beat a cc warrior? conditions
So true.
No. Warriors do not need a nerf just because they are now popular.
The whole concept that the popular class has to be nerfed into the ground is wrong.
Warriors are – and always have been a sort of jack of all trades master of none. This is still true today. At almost EVERY specific task other classes do better.
There are situations in which warriors outperform other classes – and if players feel their class is too weak or under balanced they should ask for buffs for their class in a constructive way.
Nerfing warrior won’t get us anywhere – we’ve already been there – think Warriors before the sPVP patch that made warrior a viable choice.
Just because a class is strong doesn’t mean that it needs to be ruined and sacrificed on the altar of other people’s hate.
Just buff up other, weaker classes – if that is the case ( i don’t play much ranger/engi etc) and that should do it.
Also keep in mind that warriors are popular also because they are relatively simple to play ( as opposed to engi or ele where you have to dance around your keyboard like a spider on drugs).
Let’s not forget that they were also probably the most popular class in the game even when they were considered horrible at sPvP and alright at WvW. They are popular for many reasons. Straightforward design, best looking armor type, well known archetype that many people are accustomed to. A classes popularity is not directly related to how strong they are. Sure, warriors might have some extra players who hopped on thinking they would faceroll /laugh but as I have already said, they were already the most popular class in the game pre buffs.
Competent players do not have problems with warriors.
This is an un-backed up claim.
Many decent players have said that warriors are in the OP side.
That obviously does not mean that an horrible warrior can easily lose to a competent, let’s say, elementalist.
I attack him personally because he is well known for spouting misinformation and inaccuracies while not having enough experience to speak on balance in sPvP.
The only thinks he has said in this topic is that healing signet is banned in duel servers, which is actually true, and that Warrior population in PvP is on the rise, which is also true.
I see no misinformation, nor inaccuracies.
If you want to stop what in your opinion are misinformation or inaccuracies, you should prove they are wrong instead of attacking the poster.
It isn’t an “un-backed” up claim. I have enough experience on both warrior and thief to speak about this. I also know many good players who would tell you exactly the same thing. As for what he said specifically in this thread, that isn’t what matters. He is well known for it, as I have already said.
Competent players do not have problems with warriors. WvW is not balanced through sPvP, for instance Axe 5 was changed for sPvP but remains the same in WvW and PvE. I attack him personally because he is well known for spouting misinformation and inaccuracies while not having enough experience to speak on balance in sPvP.
Yes. Why? Warriors give up nothing for their massive amount of survivability and damage, thanks to Unsuspecting Foe or the way condi damage works in general. Some classes are completely unable to kill a decent Warrior (See: Shatter Mesmer, Thieves in general) without a massive skill difference margin, thanks to the way those specs/classes are designed (burst damage).
You’re tolling right? This is a joke, is it not? You can’t have possibly named two of the absolute strongest classes vs warrior, one of which is a pretty hard counter, and claimed that they are weak vs warrior. lol
I speak for the opposite camp on this one. I have no issue with warrior’s. I really don’t see what the fuss is about. I see them get dropped by single targets..I see them get dropped by mobs..the same as every other profession. However, I do understand many would like things easier rather than just get better.
We already know warriors have no issues with other warriors, that’s why everyone is rerolling one if not already playing one.
Yes, and many non warrior players who aren’t bad don’t have problems with warrior either. Of course “Excalibur”, players like yourself are excluded from this. Do you even sPvP because last time you were whining about warrior you were a bad and undergeared WvW S/D thief. Mind posting your PvP stats?
Already posted. Look in my post history if you wanna see it. And stop stalking me bro. It’s getting creeeepy.
Sorry, but you don’t have the experience to talk about sPvP balance. If you want to talk about WvW balance, there is a place for that… the WvW forums.
In case you are wondering why I can’t (and nobody should) take your sPvP posts serious, it is because at 10 minutes a game (reasonable assumption) you have only spent 13.66 hours in sPvP. By comparison I have spent 375.83 hours (2,255 games) in sPvP. I have over double your total played time on ranger, and I don’t even play ranger. Guardian, a class I have only briefly dabbled with, has nearly as many games as your total. Thief, which is my second most played class has 798 games played. Warrior has 1,094 games played.
Mesmer and thieves are good counters against warriors. Because of healing signet warriors are weak against burst damage, so some eles builds are efective against them. Engenier also have the tools to be a counter to warrior.
Oh, you thought this thread was serious? I guarantee you that most of the people posting in it already know this. It is a well known fact after all. They just want to pretend warrior has no counter to further their nerf agenda.
I speak for the opposite camp on this one. I have no issue with warrior’s. I really don’t see what the fuss is about. I see them get dropped by single targets..I see them get dropped by mobs..the same as every other profession. However, I do understand many would like things easier rather than just get better.
We already know warriors have no issues with other warriors, that’s why everyone is rerolling one if not already playing one.
Yes, and many non warrior players who aren’t bad don’t have problems with warrior either. Of course “Excalibur”, players like yourself are excluded from this. Do you even sPvP because last time you were whining about warrior you were a bad and undergeared WvW S/D thief. Mind posting your PvP stats?
At the moment warriors can just equip their passive regen signet and be unable to be killed. When a warrior is 4v1 and not dropping below 50% health and able to kill the other 4 players, it simply makes PVP unfun. Just had two games where it was impossible to kill any of the opposing team because it was all passive regen warriors.
If 4 ppl can’t kill a warrior should simply drop pvp and go pve.If the 4ppl also get killed by the war then i’m sorry to say videogames are just not your calling.
I can beat almost every warrior 1v1 on my zerk amulet build including the banner regen full tank cleric, shaman gear.I should assume 1can kill16 ppl solo if these warriors can kill 4 all by themselves then.
Join a random 1v1 server and see for yourself how easy good players kill warriors.If it can be done 1v1 than your and other nerf threads ops are simply l2P issues.
I can kill warriors, others can kill warriors, you and 4 ppl can’t 4v1 so seriously leave pvp for who has what it takes for it.
in duel servers, healing signet is banned
Well, I haven’t personally experienced this “ban” on healing signet but I can tell you why it would be banned since you seem to lack the ability to determine that. The reason people on duel servers would ban it is because it is very effective against low damage builds. For a long time, duel builds have mostly been low damage builds meant more to outlast than to burst someone down. Therefore, it would be very powerful against duel builds. In real PvP, where nobody runs duels builds, not so powerful. You know, I bet most of the people that whine on these forums about HS are duelers or people who run duel builds in PvP. lol
I agree about Ascended gear being a mistake. They should have never added it in the first place. I can deal with Ascended gear, even though I think it is bad for the game. If they ever say they are adding another tier I will be gone though.
Oh, you again. It’s hilarious that I recognize so many names from this thread as whiners from the warrior forums a few months back. Same old people still trying to perpetuate the myths and get classes nerfed.
What about what I said was wrong? So far you fall right into what I said in the post. smh. I will say it again if you quote me read me. If not whats the point of having a discussion? Read your other post in this topic. We do not need to have a discussion. It will just lead to some type of back a forth with you insulting me randomly and not discussing the facts. Not doing that. So I read your post. I disagree. Discussion between you and me done.
Except, I and many others have discussed the facts many times. Your side fails to see the facts and just screams things like… “but heeling signet r moar powerful than othur passive heels /drool” and then we explain why that is alright then your side says “but heeling signet r moar powerful than othur passive heels /drool”. It’s a never ending cycle of bads perpetuating myths and not listening to reason.
So when situations happen where nearly the entire warrior community switches to healing signet…theres a balance issue. Hopefully that will be addressed soon haven’t seen anyone run anything but healing signet since its buff.
Except, nearly everyone ran surge before the healing signet change. Nobody said surge was overpowered. What they did say is that the other heals were underpowered. All the heals got a buff, healing signet was actually made useful for fighting low damage builds. You know, a lot of duel builds are low damage builds, wonder if that has anything to do with the wah wah on the forums. Hmmm.
Anet: “Let’s give them a taste of reliable condition removal, maybe make burst builds viable as an alternative, let them rejoice for abit, then double the cd. Trolololol”
Or they could…ya know make you somewhat closer to everyone else in the game. Lets see…melandru runes, dogged march, cleansing ire, warhorn, zerker stance if you want as well (lemongrass in wvw) That luls at condis. So now you gotta worry about direct damage right? Shield block, healing signet, adrenal heal, endure pain, high mobility on most of your weapons…hmmm yea. April 30th gave warriors dogged march, and warriors have been getting significant buffs since then. I agree that they needed to be buffed, they were behind (even though I knew warriors that were smashing people prior to April 30th and they were using Burst skills /gasp) but 6 months of buffing? Really?
Melandru/lemon grass combo is available to everyone. No offense, but any class sounds impressive when you start listing all the different ways they have of clearing conditions. When you spec a class for maximum condition clearing, you get really good condition clearing. How many people have you met in wvw that does that though? I personally have never met a melandru/lemongrass warrior with x/warhorn x/shield. Warriors were not constantly buffed for 6 months. In fact, leg specialist was nerfed, empower allies was nerfed, heightened focus was moved from adept to grandmaster, berserker stance cd was increased. Instead of asking for nerfs for one class, which makes no one satisfied, why not ask for buffs for other classes, which makes everyone happy?
There were actually a few more nerfs than that, even in this last patch there was a bug fix which nerfed warrior stuns pretty significantly. Still not enough for the QQ train, they won’t stop until a class is dead (or they find a new witch to hunt).
Nerfed? I think thats your problem right there. You think any thing that brings down warriors even a bit is a nerf, lol. There has been the word balanced thrown around on this forum, but I don’t think you guys really know what it is.
As for warrior stuns…It was a bug they fixed with a sigil, u really need to read the patch notes. They didn’t touch warrior stuns, lol.
Well yes, I would say moving 2 staple DPS boosting traits that used to be in tier 1 both to tier 3 was a pretty big nerf. If those traits had stayed where they were, we may have been overpowered. They were moved to counter balance the sustain buffs and what I can only assume was also meant to be a PvE nerf for the standard PvE builds. Sadly, it also had the effect of nerfing some builds that relied on them, but it’s not the end of the world.
Were you not able to read where I said “bug fix”? It is still a nerf to warrior stuns primarily. You now face 1.5 seconds less worth of stuns between shield bash and skull crack. You’re welcome.
AB and AV would be so cool, i am prety sure they would work in gw2. Not wsg though, be careful what you wish for, a few mesmers can help the flag carrier get home in 20 seconds. And knowing anet it will be mesmers that get adjusted not the map. Spirit Watch debacle v2.0
Or you just don’t let carriers take teleports? That was hard.
Anet: “Let’s give them a taste of reliable condition removal, maybe make burst builds viable as an alternative, let them rejoice for abit, then double the cd. Trolololol”
Or they could…ya know make you somewhat closer to everyone else in the game. Lets see…melandru runes, dogged march, cleansing ire, warhorn, zerker stance if you want as well (lemongrass in wvw) That luls at condis. So now you gotta worry about direct damage right? Shield block, healing signet, adrenal heal, endure pain, high mobility on most of your weapons…hmmm yea. April 30th gave warriors dogged march, and warriors have been getting significant buffs since then. I agree that they needed to be buffed, they were behind (even though I knew warriors that were smashing people prior to April 30th and they were using Burst skills /gasp) but 6 months of buffing? Really?
Melandru/lemon grass combo is available to everyone. No offense, but any class sounds impressive when you start listing all the different ways they have of clearing conditions. When you spec a class for maximum condition clearing, you get really good condition clearing. How many people have you met in wvw that does that though? I personally have never met a melandru/lemongrass warrior with x/warhorn x/shield. Warriors were not constantly buffed for 6 months. In fact, leg specialist was nerfed, empower allies was nerfed, heightened focus was moved from adept to grandmaster, berserker stance cd was increased. Instead of asking for nerfs for one class, which makes no one satisfied, why not ask for buffs for other classes, which makes everyone happy?
There were actually a few more nerfs than that, even in this last patch there was a bug fix which nerfed warrior stuns pretty significantly. Still not enough for the QQ train, they won’t stop until a class is dead (or they find a new witch to hunt).
Not even sure if this is for real or not but it’s pretty hilarious how a few months ago Warr Hammer was derided as the slowest, clunkiest, easiest weapon to dodge in the game.
Yep. People didn’t even take my Mace/Shield Hammer build seriously when I posted it like 3 months ago or whatever. It was pretty similar to the current “meta” hammer build. I did refine it after this post (Desperate Power changed to Unsuspecting Foe and ended up liking H M/S best etc) but it is still nearly identical.
Here is the build I am running today. Got rid of the 20 in Arms. Changed Leg Specialist out for Desperate Power and put the 20 from Arms in Discipline. This version seems to play a lot smoother so far. Also switched out Hammer CD reduction for Defy Pain. Not sure how I feel about that. Though Defy Pain does seem to have synergy with Desperate Power.
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30 – II, IX, XI
10 – III (sometimes I)
30 – III, VIII, XI
Hammer/Axe/Mace, also trying Hammer Mace/Mace. May also try Hammer/Mace/Shield and Hammer/Axe/Shield.
Zerker Amulet, Hoelbrak or Melandru Runes, Sigil of Fire x2, Paralyzation x1
Skills are; Healing Surge, Stomp, Balanced Stance, Signet of Stamina, Signet of Rage (I occasionally use Berserker stance instead of Stomp also).
So you guys think its perfectly OK to have a high damage, 2 second stun on a lower CD than every other attack on hammer (except auto attack ofc). And you also think that its ok to have one of the best bleed appliers in the game, with an aoe root, on a lower cooldown than every other CD on sword? Maybe you guys just don’t get it since there isn’t a class that has a lower cooldown on weapons than a warrior (except thieves because initiative is a ‘cooldown’ lulz)
Umm, yes, we do. Do you know why? Warrior was designed around using their F1 abilities on a low cooldown. It has been in the game since warrior was introduced. It was even in the game when warrior was considered one of the weakest professions in the game, so how do you figure low cooldown on F1 abilities is a problem?
@ atoboss: I have a warrior. Theres zero telegraph on skullcrack so seeing it coming is about the same as dodging nearly every auto attack. And applying weakness to the target will make you’re second ES more than likely land since they are trying to dodge not only ES, but Hammer 4/5.
It’s pretty much common sense when it is coming. If you can’t anticipate it coming (and it’s extremely predictable) why do you deserve to dodge it?
The issue with warrior is a simple one. It has many strong builds but overall its sustain between it’s stuns invul states, and condition management is too high. What makes it funny is that it really isn’t far off from the old DD bunker except it has higher sustained, much higher mobility, and more stuns (not to mention better stat contributions every where except healing power) where old DD bunker had better condi management.
I mained warrior for 5 months. I posted many threads begging Anet for buffs. I waited a month after the Mc/Sh + GS meta (to test it myself) before I said a kitten thing about it. The minute I explained why it was OP I got bashed by the same people I posted with asking for buffs the month before. That is the truth of the situation. Hypocrisy is rampant. The devs are learning their lesson from buffing and nerfing too much and too heavy handedly early on forcing us to deal with the meta and figure out what they could not.
Every player with some sort of objectivity and game knowledge pretty much knows what is blatantly OP in the game as of this moment. They know that when the build they did ok with before now lets them win nigh every 1 v x it is probably OP. They generally go with it, enjoy the wins, and account their new success to being better at the game then someone else. They will jump on a class beat some one who they guess is using a build similar to their own and justify their own build. It is a situation you bump into so often it isn’t even funny. S/D buff for thieves, Dhuumfire and terror for necro, kit refinement for engineer, Shattered Strength for mesmer, the list goes on and on. Players knew it was OP who played the class at the time and still they did so and defend their builds.
The most begrudging thing to get a player to say is. “You might have over buffed us”. In the minds of many players there is no such thing as this.
Anet won’t make a move fearing we will figure something else out to throw balance out of whack. Many players will flock to the fotm get their wins and defend their builds. I will sit on the side lines for now. Being OP really is not my thing. I hope Anet in the future gets some more eyes on balance.
Oh, you again. It’s hilarious that I recognize so many names from this thread as whiners from the warrior forums a few months back. Same old people still trying to perpetuate the myths and get classes nerfed.
RUNESCAPE – Castle wars. Man what a fun game mode…
2 bases on opposite ends, 20 minute match… you must capture the flag and run it back to your base without the enemy killing you. Requires some to defend some to attack and there are different supplys like med kits, explosives, siege that help stop the enemy.
Huttball was utter trash. I would rather see something similar to Voidstar. I agree about adding capture the flag though, I have been hoping they would for a long time. I also agree we need some arenas, though I never played any arena in that game you were talking about. We need 2v2, 3v3, and 5v5 imo. Something similar to UT2K4 Conquest mode might be interesting.
