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Stacking has ruined player skill levels

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That’s not what he’s saying either Moon. Judging by your posts, you’re one of those players upset that defines ‘play how I want’ as ‘I want to play a trinity role in GW2 and cannot stand that other players understand the game better’.

The OP actually raises a point about trivializing content and players failing to understand the underlying encounters. You are just crying out because players are doing things quicker than you.

Ive done every dungeon in the game and done it with easy simple because of stacking lol. First off, there is no “hard” dungeon in this game because you can stack your way through it.

It’s not long. Watch it and tell me with a straight face that it’s stacking that trivialised the fight.

You’ve done every dungeon in the game? Great. Your medal is in the mail….This is the dungeon sub. Congrats I guess? acts impressed

Want to see that fight trivialized? That’s what the FGS rushing does. They didn’t use it. Maybe you’re considering reflects an exploit as well? I don’t see where you see ‘stack exploits’ in that video though. Again, you don’t even need to stack on half the kitten in this game and can still kill it just as fast. It’s just a convenient method.

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Stacking has ruined player skill levels

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Well, I think the OP is just making a statement. He/she isn’t asking to remove stacking from the game or anything. To a degree the OP has a point too.

Although many of the PuGs OP is finding in LFG never understood the base mechanics of the game, they get to watch youtube videos of other groups doing dungeon runs. They see a stack spot and think that it’s a ‘magic spot’ where DPS happens. In reality, half the time it couldn’t really matter less. Sometimes PuGs will even stack corners without even LOSing anything. It’s just how it is.

The whole ‘rush and crush’ style is certainly good to make fast cash or trivialize boring bosses but often it is fun to do things a different way. I don’t think it’s even markedly slower either as long as you’re still playing with good people. That’s what I think the OPs point is.

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Lets have a REAL wvw tournament 1 vs 1

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Yeah, I get that. It’s easy to see it from different perspectives. It’s very much a ‘play to win’ thing. I keep that mindset for PvE and I keep it for sPvP. I of course do as much as I can in WvW to win as well in the skirmishes I get into, although I just don’t find the large scale fights very fun. I won’t argue with efficiency though.

I do hope they do something with the system right now though. I think 2v1 is a very legit tactic for a shuffled competition. BG won by a huge margin in a previous match up. It’s reasonable to team up to win, and then move on to the next week.

The problem I’m seeing now is that you have this 2v1 as a way to manipulate the standing. The Swiss tournament guarantees a match-up with these teams on a very regular basis because of their performances against other servers. So, it becomes imperative to ‘team up’ with someone else to try to force either TC or JQ down so that they are no longer matched up with BG. It’s annoying to know that you have to play a certain way in order to ensure you don’t get 2v1 in a coming week instead of everyone just giving their 100% each week.

I think it’s a problem when we’re playing the rankings more than we’re playing the game. I tried to play this week and I just got shafted at the spawn a few times. Left to do other things.

Anyways, my two cents.

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What was EOTM supposed to be?

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I don’t think you actually contribute to server score at all Jack. You contribute to your own WvW achievements and rank but you don’t help your server.

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Seasons: Best Tournament System?

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Keep seasons. They bring players out to do WvW. Add more WvW rewards but just make it regular match-ups instead of some high stakes thing. It makes it too desirable to play with BS tactics.

Sure the 2v1 is a legit thing but only because it is worth doing so to secure some sort of prize. Get rid of that prize and then gameplay and honest competition will be at the forefront again. You’ll have servers give their all each week because they enjoy playing instead of throwing matches and double teaming.

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A lot of passive aggressiveness going on here. Why always the BG tears thing? I think this was started with the intent to discuss. If you start on with things like that, it’s difficult to have an actual discussion. If you fairly judge this tournament, it’s kind of messed up. Take a look at the breakdowns for awards. Doesn’t really matter much who places 1-3. Maybe even up to 4 and 5 as well.

The OP raises a good point that a lot of the competitive WvW play seems centered around positioning match-ups. From my perspective as a primarily PvE player, I do not enjoy zerging and do not have the PC for it. I do however enjoy havoc and scouting. I think you’ll find that match-ups like this are very dull and unenjoyable for a great deal of players (regardless of the side you are on).

You’ve got some people so heavily, emotionally invested in this stuff that they’re willing to create boring match-ups and really ruin a lot of the gameplay for either the rewards or just to ‘stick it to’ another server.

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Runes of Strength Over Scholar?

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Scholar is still the best bet if you play frequently with an organized group. Strength is beneficial for someone who is often PuGing and has broad shoulders upon which to carry a team.

Past that, it doesn’t matter for the rest of PvE.

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Wait until it affects the living story.

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Can we make story mode account bound?

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This. +1 to you.

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Hostile PvE dungeon community!

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For a long time now, I have been very biased against certain professions in dungeons, in patricular, necros, engis, and especially rangers. As an attempt to overcome this issue, I tried to gain some perspective and rolled a ranger alt. Do you know whats really fun and really great about rangers? Absolutely kittening nothing.

You play a ranger and are still biased against them? Willful ignorance perhaps? Ranger is a great class. There is certainly room for a Ranger in organized play. I see them being much more integral to speed runs in the near future as well.

My only conclusion regarding you, is that you must be playing with some absolute trash, PuG players. That said, if you are PuGing, Engi is a fantastic class. I can only really say that is doesn’t currently have a place in optimal runs. That said, it can cover down on horrible PuG eles who cannot stack/maintain might or vuln. It can also cover down on horrible thieves who cannot stealth. It can cover down for horrible blinds. The list goes on. A good Eni can carry a horrible PuG.

I would imagine you’ve run with some ‘all heavy speed run zerk’ groups and likely have little idea what a well synergized run actually looks like (Hint: taking Rangers and Engis will still be better for you than 4 wars and a Mesmer…or w/e PuGs run these days).

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Megaservers and Map Chat

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Indeed. I have not seen Grenth fail since launch….until Megaserver. Last night me and 6 other people rushed it and finished it before the masses could arrive. It was fun. Of course I don’t waste my time lecturing people in map chat. It doesn’t get you anywhere. Clerics wanna heal and bearbows wanna pew pew. Not my fight to fight there. However, whenever I do need something, I find it’s easiest to go it alone and avoid the scaling.

Many of the players we see out there are not very good. They are out for another shot at events they couldn’t ever do. Soon they will either learn, or give up again and leave things to players who do know how to play. So that’s a good thing to keep in mind. No sense in arguing over map chat with them for it .

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Blade Shard Vendor

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Yes. It’s coming with the fractal leaderboards.

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Most difficult boss in the game?

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Figuring out how to survive the birds actually made it easier to stay close to him. It’s a wasted double dodge on them but just going out of his LoS will solve bird problem. Then it’s just his attacks to deal with.

O_o Although I jumped in the water and got a really nasty surprise in there. I hope one day I can have a shark pit to thwart random challengers with.

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Most difficult boss in the game?

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Haha yes :P I thought I was PMing Iris with that but it was actually you! I’m sure it’s doable but, I just don’t know how haha.

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Most difficult boss in the game?

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Yes. HoTW Story boss is ridiculous. The birds! Not the birds!

Erm we did sort of melee him. The first time we did him it was very yolo. More recently we found we can get a few rushes off on him and kite him around structures in melee. LoSing him around things actually solves the bird problem.

He’s still a massive kitten though.

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Mesmer OP in CM

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While Mesmers might not be ‘top DPS’, I think they’ve always in a decent spot. They’ve just a useful class. And I don’t think that will change unless they really decide to throw balance out the window.

Nice as always Jerem!

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Dungeon request "Runners out"

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I think you are overconcerned with the way other people play dungeons – which, quite frankly, is none of your business.

Cannot +1 hard enough.

The point is why we have dungeons then? if ppl only want to get rewarded.

Would you feel good if you’re in a marathon but takes a car to reach the goal?

So the way you are telling is take a car and run to goal and you got rewarded that your point of view here.

Same happen to the game with runners..

That’s not really a fair comparison. Is it really such a competition between you, personally, and the serious dungeon runners? Which one of you gets to say “This is a foot race, not a car race?”

See it this way, you are cheating the game that simple, why you have a trash mobs then? do you think they put mobs there only for people run?

The point here is everyone understand that you are lossing your time too, is not for casual players only, isnt better you get a hall of legendaries instead of running?

why most of ppl only made AC and TA and not others one? they answer is they are quickly dungeons. so the point is you want to farm gold, well lets farm gold but in a razonable way not running

If you run Arah p3, there are a whole load of elite undead patrols. I’m preeeeeetty sure they were designed to be skipped just by the very nature of the way the mobs were grouped and set up in that path.

As someone else said, stop concerning yourself with what other people are doing, it doesn’t concern you. If you don’t want to skip, don’t skip. Just make sure you specify in your lfg “no skipping”.

That what i do friend, the idea is not concerning myself, im trying to ppl undertand that you lost your time running too, read the post before.

Ok. Maybe. But there are already many threads about this. You starting your own is suspicious. It looks more like a passive aggressive shot at speedrunners, thinly veiled as a question.

If you have a problem with skips, don’t do it. If you have a problem with stacking, don’t do it. If you want to know why people do it, read an existing thread.

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Can’t really. Send a ticket and maybe Anet can help you out. They have logs. I wouldn’t count on it though.

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Hostile PvE dungeon community!

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Ah I missed these threads

Glad you are entertained.

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2000 hours, 0 precursors, why keep playing??

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23 years lived. 0 winning lottery tickets. Why keep living?

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phalanx warrior new meta

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Nooo! You must have misspelled Asura. PW is too legit on Asura Thief. I have derailed thread enough though :P

Don’t think Ele will be irrelevant after the FGS #4 is changed. It will still be a high source of DPS, Group Might/Fury, and Vuln.

The Phalanx setup seems like it could have some strong applications in longer encounters, although some group DPS numbers would be nice to see for comparison. I can’t see it being useful everywhere though. Some things die fast enough that a Might sustain is unnecessary. Some things do outlive an initial might stack and complications can make re-stacking fall through. Those sorts of situations could benefit from a Phalanx setup. The trait swap in the patch makes this entirely hassle free.

So really it’s just about picking and choosing when it’s useful. Not really any different than before except now it’s hassle free.

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Warrior obsession in AC.

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Even if you have to pug because no one in your crappy guild has time for you, why join some crappy pug group that is already made? Either A) Make your own pug group as this is extremely easy and puts you in control or make sure you are the first one to enter the instance in someone else’s pug group, so that kicking you later on or so would kill the dungeon. Now B doesn’t solve being kicked at start of dungeon, but whatever.

Point of story, be the first one in the instance whether it is your group or someone else’s group, and maybe find a better guild.

lol…this guy.

I think PuGs stack Wars because it’s fairly easy for them all to stay alive and put out acceptable DPS. If you look at their builds, most of them run wonky setups with signet utilities. A few might run a banner or something. That’s basically the reason why. You could get a PuG Thief, Ele, Guard, etc… but with those classes you risk them being horrible AND dead. With a War you really just accept that they will be horrible but at least put in the damage up-time. Such is the PuGlogic.

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I always wanna play my thief now! Cutest Asura thief NA.

Probably true because I do not have an asura thief.

I am sorry for your loss

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I always wanna play my thief now! Cutest Asura thief NA.

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Zerker meta: Possible solutions

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CC has nothing to do with your gear choice in PvE. Defiance is not broken. You just don’t understand it apparently. You can remove it. Good groups do remove it. You can remove it in your cleric’s gear the same way players in zerker gear can remove it.

Why? Because you need to do so in order to time an interrupt of a skill that will disrupt group DPS. Arah Abom is a good example of this. CoE golem is as well. Just because you are spamming 1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5 whenever they are off CD, doesn’t mean that Defiance is the problem. Take a look sometime. If you don’t spam CC skills for no reason and get the boss to 18 stacks of Defiance and actually take the time to coordinate and time your CC to interrupt attacks, you will find that it’s very useful in PvE.

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Zerker meta: Possible solutions

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The point of this game is that there is a damage/support/control trinity where each player is expected to do a bunch of each. I don’t see why people completely ignoring two aspects of this and focusing on one is something they should be rewarded for when it goes in complete contrast to the goal ANet had in mind.

Control is not and will never be a thing in GW2 while :

1.The defiant buff still exists in the game
2.Bosses and enemies don’t have cast bars so we can see what they’re doing to interrupt it.

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Skipping in Dungeons

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I usually take the backroads to work to save myself time in the mornings. It’s a shame because I miss the tedious experience of bumper to bumper traffic.

A solution? Well, you could buy the majority share in Anet or NCSOFT. Then you could change all the rules! We could all have to kill 100 trash mobs just to log in! Imagine the fun!!

Or…or you could chill out, make your own groups, and stop trying to force your idea of fun on others.

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Theory: Why they nerfed dungeon chests

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Really hoping that it’s a minor bug/oversight that they will fix. This patch has been great for a lot of things but there are a few small things that could use some cleaning up. For some reason the Arah GS now shares a skin with the Arah 1H Sword :/

Then there is the issue of the item names (and more threads about problems). Perhaps they will be pushing some fixes for all of this stuff soon (and the boss chests will be included there). Like Kuru said, it was probably to stop bots (or very boring people) from killing the same boss over and over.

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Theory: Why they nerfed dungeon chests

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Its kind of annoying that you can only get the lupi chest once per day. So dungeon paths which have common bosses in multiple paths are affected. So it does effect everyone.

Oh what? Wow…Didn’t realize that. Haven’t noticed :P I thought it was only something that would affect people that rush a path over and over.

Maybe that will be fixed though? It seems like a bit of an oversight/error.

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Theory: Why they nerfed dungeon chests

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Was this really so bad? Maybe I have absolutely no idea about the latest cash grabs, but I don’t know anyone who rushes a single boss over and over for a chest in dungeons. You should be unaffected if you just run a regular tour.

I don’t think there was every anything particularly great in the boss chests anyways; a few blues/greens/maybe a rare (for me at least).

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Have you 'felt' the nerf?

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Well, sort of but it also feels like the ferocity scaling has worked to my (our) favor as well. The nerf doesn’t feel as crippling as I thought it would.

Of course I’ve also been much more interested in PvP than dungeons since the patch so I haven’t really gotten to mess around with it. -__-

At the risk of drawing some fire here, I’ll respond a bit to some of this mess. So no, of course not every run is perfect! In fact, most of the runs are not perfect. People make mistakes! Most of the time they are small ones and sometimes they are big ones.

I don’t think it’s really a huge deal though. I play to have a good time, even if it means running something wonky for some laughs. I am confident in my abilities and the groups I play with. So, the guild as an organization is centered around the ‘efficiency’ model. Individuals always differ though. Some groups are more heavily min/maxed while others are not. It just depends on who’s playing, who’s running, and what that particular group wants to accomplish.

I’d bet that this is the case for any Guild though. This community is already in the minority of this game. We would do well to not take shots at each other. I know I’d appreciate that. There are players here that I’ve got respect for and it is a shame to be put at odds over such small potato arguments.

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Have you 'felt' the nerf?

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Excuse me while I cut the tension real quick.

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Please give us level 80 dungeons.

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Support.

Requesting pre-April 15th servers, willing to buy gems for them.

Better watch out, or they’ll sell us dungeon entrance passes for gems. Oops, I gave them an idea!

Better stock up! Contested WP events being removed!

“Upon reflecting on community input, we’ve decided that having contested waypoint events to enter dungeons was a roadblock to gameplay. We’ve removed all such events and replaced dungeon entry with a simple pass entry system. A dungeon entry pass for each dungeon will be purchasable with 1200 gems or at the cost of 150G and 500 respective dungeon tokens. We feel that this will be a fair solution that will be pleasing to most of the community.”
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New Dungeons

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For all the gripes I’ve had with GW2, I still enjoy it a lot. Still, if they do move away from instanced content and entirely into “11111111111zerzergzerg111111111” mode, I don’t think I can enjoy the game anymore.

It just isn’t fun to me in any way. I am very excited to hear more about the LS because of the possibility of expanding into Maguuma and hopefully getting 2-3 more dungeons; some dungeons steeped in old Lore with some new encounters to learn.

The recent nerfs to the champs trains give me some hope that Anet is trying to also move people away from the “1111zerg”.

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lol wut…erm racist?

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Teach me to farm tokens

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Only if you teach me how to dougie.

psst Just do one tour a day

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Remember to switch traits and utilities around as needed too. There isn’t really a ‘one size fits all’ as far as builds goes.

As it stands though, you’ve got a good source of Vuln when you need it between your Rending Strikes (every 3rd hit aprox.), Cyclone Axe, and ‘On My Mark’. You should have a decent amount of Fury & Might up-time between Signet of Rage and FGJ for a roaming purpose. Unless you’re expecting a lot of CC or a particularly lengthy fight )and will need your stances) you can be using Inspiring Shouts to lead into a fight with the highest adrenaline possible. Vigorous Focus is probably best to use with a few stances on your bar.

The quicker you trigger Berserker’s Power, the better for your DPS. Of course I haven’t run the numbers to see what the output with the modifiers would be, but I think this could work for your style while still not handicapping the offensive capabilities. Just will require that you do make sure you are leading with your shouts and maintaining high adrenaline or equipping more stances for vigor if you will be doing a more challenging champ solo.

The trinkets do seem a bit awkward. I’m guessing you haven’t really figured out a set yet. Would be best for your Vuln uptime and overall damage to use Berserker’s trinkets. The Celestial ones are kind of mediocre in every way for what you’re trying to do.

Yes, LB is a more efficient CC weapon.

@Grimm: Well, it seems that he just enjoys PvE roaming and wants to play as closely to his original build as possible. I think he knows that this would not be very good at all in Dungeons or Fractals.

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I have been wondering this actually! I made the mistake of getting it in Heavy. I hope that the Wardobe unlocks in H, M, & L.

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Fair enough. So basically, what I said in the first reply still holds true. The points you’re putting into Defense just are not worth it. You’re not really gaining anything from Armored Attack and Defy Pain. As I’ve said before, Deep Strike is a waste. You are wasting your utilities to make up for the precision loss (which you are not making up for).

If you are set on not playing a DPS roaming setup, then at least get rid of this nonsensical trait. Critical Burst is also useless to you since you are relying on Adrenal Health for your healing values to be consistently higher. You would do well to trait into Power for Berserker’s Power. That way, saving your adrenaline will net you higher damage modifiers and higher healing. I would also drop Last Stand and instead opt for 20% longer stance duration with Sure Footed. Your stances will accomplish what this Trait does and they are at your disposal. Instead of a useless ‘panic button’ Trait, you can have longer stances that you can actually learn, control, and use.

You could put that last 10 into Discipline. For that (10) Major you have a few decent options within the parameters of the setup you’re running.
A) Vigorous Focus is a good bet for you. You will increase your survivability more with Vigor than with any passive trait you can add. You are way more ‘hearty’ by dodging attacks than you are with ‘Defy Pain Trait’. The stances are generally great Warrior skills that benefit you as a solo player and will accomplish the goal of raising your survivability. Not only do you get the benefits of the stance and the stun breakers, but you will also get Vigor.
B) Inspiring Shouts can also be something you swap to if you are going to be using more shouts. You will likely want On Your Mark equipped if you are fighting bosses alone since you do not have the extra Vuln that the mace OH would provide.
C) Warrior’s Sprint is just a good mobility option. Point A to point B

You do of course have way, way more options. I am assuming you are keeping the LB for CC. Anyways, swapping to GS would open up some more viable options to you within the parameters of your chosen build.

Again, you would do well to look for some advice from prominent Warrior players. I don’t just mean any schmo from the Warrior sub; I mean the trusted names in the community. There are many scrubs that think they know what they’re doing because they can PuG CoF. Do seek out the folks who are actually good players and ask for help there. They know how the Warrior traits fit together better than I do; it isn’t a main class of mine.

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Well, the question to be asked here is ‘Why?’ Needs some sort of context. Is this for WvW zerging, WvW roaming, PvE, PvP?

If PvE, why Valk? You dropped the Precision for Vitality, but then you wasted a trait on Deep Strike and filled your bar with Signets (offering nothing to your team at all). So either you do care about Precision and you are just anti-Zerk because ‘reasons’ or you are not sure what you’re trying to accomplish.

You’re also wasting a trait on Defy Pain. Since you got Valk armor, I assume you want the Vitality to stay alive. Yet, you’re bringing a Grandmaster that activates when you are at 25% health and offers nothing to your team. The 25 for Armored Attack also seems useless to me.. You have no Toughness gear. It’s a waste of a trait use for so little extra power and offers nothing to your team.

You could be much more useful putting that 10 into Strength and getting Berserker’s Power.

Sometimes it is best to take into account the opinions of others. If that many people are saying it’s a bad build, perhaps you should take a second look at it. Not everyone is tactful about it but they do have a point. There are aspects of this that don’t work well together (and I don’t main Warrior). The prominent folks on the Warrior sub might be worth listening to instead of just moving to another sub and trying to get support for a mediocre build.

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LFG Abuse / Kicking

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Never actually had anything like this happen. Of course, I either only play with Guildmates or friend and I avoid groups with players who know each other.

Have been kicked at the end of a fractal though but it was because I strongly disagreed with some of the political views of two particularly vocal individuals.

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Why hate the zerkers

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I’ve actually found the non-meta community to be very rude. Some time ago I drew the line to no longer PuG anything for fun. The decision came on the heels of posting an LFG requiring AR, Berserker’s set, and a somewhat DPS oriented setup. After 8 rude PMs and people joining the party to tell me what a horrible person I am, I decided to throw in the towel and really just shut off completely from the PuGs and that whole community.

I applaud the folks who still do try to reach out and help. I don’t play to deal with kittens, and that’s pretty much the experiences I’ve had those players.

Wethospu summed it up pretty well so I won’t really touch on that again.

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Why hate the zerkers

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Indeed. Agree 100%. It’s very much a two way street. I think many of the people who cry out ‘exploits’ would love active defense if they actually used it. Of course, these are the same people who AFK range anything with even a hint of a mechanic.

I hadn’t actually done P4 since pre-nerf until a few weeks ago. A lot of folks really didn’t like her at all.

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[Suggestion] armor class altering traits

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Who would waste their Grandmaster trait for something so arbitrary?

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Which profession for which dungeon.

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It’s actually a trick question.

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Dungeon Path Completed (Check List)?

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Is there a way to check which path you have already completed?

It makes it time consuming if you don’t regularly do them, and end up repeating a path you have already done.

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Why hate the zerkers

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It amazes me everytime I hear someone suggest ‘dodgeproof’ attacks. Perhaps if safe spots were fixed, then PuGs would actually hit their dodge key a little more often and realize how necessary it is.

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Best Party Composition for AC (and others?)?

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You don’t really need a Guard in AC but it’s not a bad one to use. Perhaps best to bring one while you get used to playing with your team though. Mess around with comp though. There is variation from some groups to others.

Like others have said, as long as you’re in Meta, you should do just fine. You’re not looking for super speed clears it seems, so don’t sweat it.

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Aetherpath broke my heart, mind, and bank

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Byron, this thread is about the Aetherpath TA dungeon. How about you read it before you spew the same anti-meta vitriol that surfaces in this sub every couple of days. The OP could benefit from playing in an organized group, not a PuG (as you suggest). The coordination threshold in Aetherpath is higher than most paths in game.

Your bias is showing. Nerfing Guardians is not the answer to class balance. I understand that you’ve probably been kicked may times by trash PuG groups for not being a War or a Guard. There is a lot of community hate towards them for this. Understand though, that while PuGs play with War/Guard parties, it’s for a reason.

Many PuGs lack the coordination, skill, and TEAM BUILDS to be successful with any other comp. War/Guard is a safe bet. This does not mean that they are OP. To the contrary, it’s quite the opposite. A War/Guard party is slow and not worth running for an organized team.

Stability is not broken. Aegis isn’t broken. Reflects are not broken. Blinds are not broken. Without them, the Guard may as well waltz into combat in silk pajamas, ready to be roughly handled. Without them, the Guard brings nothing to the team.

Banners are not broken. They are a part of the Warrior’s offensive buffs.

Joey knows this all as well. Look him up. Put your bias and anger away. There have been many people who have come here to rage. All of them have been wrong. Just chill out, discuss, and educate yourself.

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