Guild Wars 2

8/10

Enjoying the various layers of the jungle as well as exploring it and finding out more about the lore. Not too happy about how many HP it takes to unlock elite spec, fell 200 would’ve been enough really. But on the plus side since mastered are account bound it’ll take a fourth of the time to get my other elite specs.

also LOvE how the enemies are actually a threat and not just completely loot bags.

Oi,like nothing else in this game was a grind.

RSLongK.8961:

Its a new kind of fractal reset. Increased gate and less reward. Now its 1-20; 21-50; 51- 70; 71-100 (4 daily bonuses) with lots of gold sink. WHY? who looked at this and said :“Ha thats gonna be fun” Oo

My best guess is they are trying to flush a lot of gold out of the economy, but I really think if that is so this is the wrong way to do it. Maybe they’re trying to account for all the new ways to make gold? Just have to see I guess, right now everything that seems to have been good for making money has been nerfed into oblivion. Which would be so bad but….RNG….

Seems like a lot of people want instant gratification….which I don’t really blame them. Then again I am playing reaper and that thing works pretty well right outta the box.

Ranatoa.4869:

We’re you not expecting to get a new elite spec for every class? That’s all I can assume since you consider this a “terrible release with the elite specializations.”

Eh, he’s probably mad about the skill points it takes, admit, I’m a bit peeved too….then I remembered that this is the first time in a while I’ve actually wanted to look through and do content. Albeit, yes, it is ridiculous how many it takes if you have MULTIPlE professions.

just keep on hitting your head against the wall, either you’ll bust through, or die trying.

Oh thank Grenth. That freaked me out the most, little disappointed in the rise change but I agree, so far it sounds like retooling and increasing base functionality. I can really see myself taking suffer now with that low cooldown.

Thanks Bwawb!

Anything on BLighter’s boon? I haven’t had the chance to play, but with these undocumented changes I REALLY wanna make sure this thing wasn’t killed.

*sigh*not gonna lie, I was looking forward to a reaper minion Zerg build in WvW with some of my buddies

Really should make it the parallel to DS. No degen out of combat, and a bit easier to build. Right now it has both the restrictions of DS and Adrenaline but not even half the benefits of either it sounds like.

Geesus, sounds like the economist went flippin overboard, he just didn’t turn off the gold faucets, he is draining the whole bloody dam!

Narrrz.7532:

JediYoda.1275:

TY Anet

Sarcasm?

I feel like this is just to make it so that critter farming doesn’t compete with the halloween labrynth. Hopefully it gets reverted after.

They won’t, this sounds more like an economic change, and since they didn’t fix the silk scraps for ascended, I doubt they’ll do it for the maize balm.

Hm, little disappointing but I can still make it work I think.

Haven’t had a chance to play yet and am on the edge of my seat wondering what the rune is and potential build options for it. Apologies!

I wouldn’t be opposed to this and berserker stance turning into resistance. Like….idk. When you have a condition applied to you, you gain resistance as long as your health is above the threshold. Or even just reducing the duration.

Or, make it so just damaging conditions could t be applied. Admittedly, I am biased since I love plying Condi necro so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

I think this can be looked t as a small nerf, big buff. It will just take some getting used to, but it also means you don’t necessarily need 2 of the same sigils on your weapons, giving you much greater room for play. Plus with energy sigils, I see us being a lot tankier.

I have an engi, it’s much easier to survive with it rather than my necro due to the combination of mobility, stealth, and invulnerabilitY.

However, I enjoy playing on my necro more, simply because we do a good job of countering the Condi stealth builds currently running rampant in WvW, and I find I can take camps much quicker and faster on my necro compared to my engi, like the swords pop up, the supervisor is dead. And while it is harder to run on a necro, if you know what you’re doing that isn’t necessarily the case. Using our soft CC, deathshroud, and swiftness from spectral walk and warhorn 5, I found I can actually evade other classes, or force them to burn valuable teleports to catch up, then unload on them after they have done so. And I think reaper will just allow us to improve in our roaming capabilities just with its dash and how much chill it can put out.

Is it easy, no. Is necro the best class for zooming around the map, not really, but it is fun and provides a great challenge, and the satisfaction you’ll get when you catch a thief or Mesmer is immense and can happen more often than you think.

Gaaroth.2567:

Wait a sec for the first time necro got competitive damage and people want to nerf?
TROLLMAO

Well to be fair, wouldn’t it surprise you when the punching bag you’ve been beating relentlessly for the past couple of years just suddenly sprouted a giant sythe and started slashing you to bits?

I can’t find a good one from beta weekend, but here is my necro, and I’ll be using the shadow greatsword. In fact got all the shadow weapons we can currently use. Though if I ever get the tequatl GS, I shall be using that, or the reaper GS skin once I obtain it.

Doug Whisper.2465:

I don’t understand. Does it mean builds specialized in condition damage can generate dps even higher than the ones focused on non-condition damage? Or does it suppose that there should be a gap between the dps from condition damage and non-condition ones and currently the gap is not wide enough?

Unless you’re a sinister engi, I don’t believe any condition build matches to the DPS of a zerker, it’s just not possible given the time frame of boss fights. Also you have 3 camps really arguing, and it gets confusing because any changes based on one game mode affect the other.

One camp believes that Condition damage should not come close to zerker damage numbers, due to the more passive nature of conditions, apply and forget.

One camp believe that conditions should get close to but not exceed zerker damage.

Then you have my camp, which believes that condition damage should be able to reach zerker damage levels with conditions, but only if certain requirements are met, I.E., no cleansing or major screw ups on the enemy side, and continuous application.

Currently all the camps are agreeing that burning is right now the biggest problem for everyone condition wise, just we haven’t decided on what the root problem is, be it how easy it is for certain classes to quickly apply burning, or of burning is just dealing too much raw damage.

Aidenwolf.5964:

TheLastNobody.8319:

Nerf burning to 12%,, buff bleeding to 8%, buff torment to 10% when moving.

Nerfing burning is a no no. It’s not burning that’s the issue it’s the application of the condition namely by guardians as elementalists were just dealt with.

Way I see it, it’s a bit of both, burning being too powerful a condition, as it currently dead 2.5x more damage of a bleed, making it nearly impossible for other conditions builds to truly shine or overcome, and creating a false perception that Condi’s are op as heck. You’re right though that the plentiful application of burning is just ridiculous, currently on engi or guard, both of which can burst you with burns. Then go full defense to wait it out. Yes you can cleanse but then what will keep you alive for the second round? And good ones will space out their applications or apply cover conditions. Suggestions?

Sirbeaumerdier.3740:

Ripkord.8567:

… iam realising that you guys who are complaining about stealth thiefs are just to lazy to use anti stealth traps and skills…

If your class has not any chance to reveal a perma stealth thief, go get some anti stealth traps. Or joint with a class that can reveal stealth ( more Classes are able to do that in HoT)…

Now stop ranting about permastealth thief, go and build a build that has CONDITION removal in it. Use it and stop beeing a crybaby.

Anet has already done something against it long ago and even added with HoT more options exactly for this situation.

What kind of non-sense is that? Not all professions have access to so called ‘anti-stealth’ skills/traits and you can’t reasonably expect ppl to always carry supply and traps at all time. Oh, wait mister invisi trapper thief, I have to go to speldan get myself supplies for my stealth trap because I just dropped mine into a ram… brb…

No, seriously ppl drop it with the stealth trap BS. It’s just insulting to ppl intelligence to try that argument.

Perma stealth is kitten period. It provides extremely poor fights on top of being utterly unfair. It’s only fun for trolls and I’m sad ANET feed them so well.

And this is why I call thief the troll’s class of GW2.

The main thing I’m worried about is how much of the space I’ll have to play through to get my elite spec. I looove reaper, and I want to experience the HoT content growing my necromancer into the movie monster that reaper represents. But I don’t want to play through the Xpac and end up getting my elite spec right at the end after I’ve done the content. And I really don’t look forward to repeating the content on all my characters I want to get elite specs for.

Nerf burning to 12%,, buff bleeding to 8%, buff torment to 10% when moving.

A nuclear bomb, dropped right on the queen’s palace, and from the mushroom cloud we see zhaitan arise, announcing his return with a thunderous “I’m back kittenes!”

I’m thinking asura, gonna go with a sort of mad scientist that dabbled too much into the mists type of character.

Have you checked inside the weapon vaults? Something in there too

CadeRG.4508:

You guys gotta realize that just because guardian isn’t the best at something, doesn’t mean that it’s useless and people won’t take it. People will continue to play guardian because they find it fun/like the aesthetic.

No need to burn down (no pun intended) guardian player’s hopes for raids.

True, but the same thing was said about necros and rangers in dungeons. And look where they are. I play a necro, and while I do love it to death, it’s been my main almost since I started GW2, they are rarely wanted in dungeons simply because they don’t bring much to the table.

Ideally, every class should be the best at something, or decent at multiple things. Revenants are boon factories, Druids are super healers, Warrior will still have phalanx strength to help provide a constant stream of might, engineer is locked in simply for it’s Condi damage capabilities but still has great support, thieves have stealth which is always helpful, reapers are going to be bruiser gods and can pull people that are downed out of the danger zone, eles are a good Jack of all trades, mesmers have portal and give alclarity with chronomancer.

The guard’s whole schtick is that it can help negate damage that would normally wipe a party off the face of tyria with reflects, projectile blocks, and aegis. But if there is enough unblock able attacks, then a guardian will start to be nothing more than an active spectator…..dear Grenth i hope this doesn’t sound hostile, truly don’t mean it to if it does. Just wanting to make a point, and Hopefully I’m dead wrong.

In short, to summarize, I don’t think people are afraid guardian will not be meta, I think they’re afraid that they’ll start thinking they same way I did on my necromancer for the longest time. “Well, if I was on another class, I could do something.”

Well that’s a big buff for rise…and all my minions….I is a happy necro. Can’t wait to see if this MIGhT in some way transition to PvP or WvW. If so, just imagine…..

Hey guys what’s going (looks in thread) JACKSON! Plane! Now! We’re going to the shiver peaks! Nobody ever goes to the shiver peaks.

Cam Ron.4170:

I have a feeling/kinda hoping that Reaper will be pretty broken on release, and be great in zergs. A Pull + stability + nice AoE damage/chill/vulnerability. As much as I want to try the Revenant, I think I may have to play around with Reaper for a few weeks first

I can see it working, specially if you go like a minion bomber build with rise, or just a good old fashioned frontline well build. The bad thing is just making sure you have enough stability to hit.

But I think the biggest thing that will change Zerg warfare will be the maps and how they’re designed.

flow.6043:

Ithir Darkleaf.7923:

I would balance Reaper by bringing the other elite specs up to its level. Reaper is the benchmark of how an elite spec should be done. Period.

Elite specializations shouldn’t be an upgrade to regular specs, but an alternative. If they were really that much better you’d basically limit any kind of build diversity to “elite + 2 others”.
That being said, Reaper isn’t op.
Death Shroud could use a buff though, because as it stands RS is clearly better than DS.

This, I think reaper will finally show Anet just what exactly necromancer needs to be a better more viable class as it gives them another subsection of the necro to balance for, rather than a comparison to other classes and their abilities. B

Black Box.9312:

Cat Has Ducks.1982:

TheLastNobody.8319:

Ehhhh, sounding like you guys are having the same problems as us necromancers….so from what I’m getting at revenant and Druid are pretty much pushing you guys out?

They are either giving part of what makes us good to them or making what we offer seem less important.

So many nonreflectable crap being added to raids and new content it’s annoying. As well as unblockable attacks. But the biggest problem is with so much little damage constantly being thrown around in raids, it is becoming much harder to get reliable blocks on the hard hitting attacks.

Oh and while they were at it, they nerfed our 4 second quickness ELITE!!!!

I think that that is the single most annoying thing that Anet is doing with PvE. Because of the ridiculous nature of reflect scaling, they’ve decided to make every PvE projectile completely unblockable instead of just adjusting reflect damage.

It makes Guardians near useless in a fight.

Yeah I can see that being a big problem, not like you guys have 2 health bars, or extended periods of invulnerability. Making something unblock able is just lazy design, and I do think they’ve put out too many reflects on other classes, which has caused them to make this decision. Then again they have made other attacks undodgeable and what not which counters thief mechanics as well, but seems raids are focusing on more sort of damage reduction and regeneration rather than outright avoiding damage all together.

Ehhhh, sounding like you guys are having the same problems as us necromancers….so from what I’m getting at revenant and Druid are pretty much pushing you guys out?

Dristig.9678:

Stop calling for Nerfs before the profession is even live! What is wrong with you people? You don’t know anything about the final iteration of the class so what makes you think you have ANY idea how or why to nerf it?

Various reasons really. Fear of things being so strong at launch that they end up gutting the profession later down the line.

Other people who don’t play reaper or play very little start whining for nerfs when they realize they can’t just focus the necro as easily before and expect to win against them, thus calling for nerfs so their old tactics work again.

Meta classes calling for nerfs so that they won’t be pushed out and made potentially obsolete.

Few more, can’t think of em now. It’ll come to me.

Ilharn.6813:

nearlight.3064:

I expect most people to complain about might stacking bruiser builds with loads of sustain that can sit at 25 might with a faster might ramp uptime than ever before. Some people will beg and scream for blighters boom to get an IcD.

Then i want to have ICD on Phalanx Strength too – but i heard no screaming about that

Na, put one on forceful GS as well. Brings it in line with the eh rest of the GS traits. prepares anti flame defenses

I don’t really agree with either….ok I can semi agree about DD, but really I don’t think it’s too powerful considering to get the amount of vul we need to make it worth it, we’re talking about giving up bitter chill here, as well as reduced shroud cooldown and unblock able marks.

And Gravedigger is fine the way it is. Reason why? That windup is huge, so can be easily interrupted or bursted down, or just plain dodged. Making it 50% cooldown would make it too clunky and really not worth using, in fact GD is pretty much the only reason to take GS anyway right now. Remeber BWE 1 where it had a 1 second cooldown? Yeah….fun times.

Not a fractal, but HoTW boss after the troll boss, it can let you bust through his block stacks. I can totally see two reapers with quickness GD him down if given quickness below 50%.

Vanilla necro, heavy CC will do the job. Hammer warrior is great.

Reaper, you’ll need to kite as fighting us straight up can result in a massive case of pain.

Honestly, I’d love for them to add dire….but not until burning has been nerfed and some of the others brought up.

Nike.2631:

Quarktastic.1027:

Nike.2631:

Superior Runes of the Ice

(1) +25 Vitality
(2) +10% Chill Duration
(3) +50 Vitality
(4) 25% chance when struck to cause an ice nova. (Cooldown: 30 seconds)
(5) +100 Vitality
(6) +20% Chill Duration; +7% damage against chilled foes

I honestly forgot those runes existed.

They’re gonna be GREAT on reapers .

I used em some during the beta, they are very nice for reaper, and you might check out runes of the elementalist.

the only thing is that this might make a balancing nightmare and make it near impossible for them to balance certain builds and thus shift the meta.

But to provide a counter arguement to my own, most problems seem to stem from traits rather than amulet numbers.

All in all, I think it’d be nice to have 1 season or even just a weekend like this.

I hadn’t WvW for a while so was rusty as heck when I ran into a trapper thief on my Condi necro, nearly had the bigger but mistimed my dang Doom.

He was extremely annoying though, but he didn’t run, so it was an interesting fight. Something should be done though, I think stealth traps should function like siege disabler, being a thrown grenade rather than a line trap.

MithranArkanere.8957:

Rashagar.8349:

MithranArkanere.8957:

That staff and the raven mini are all I need to complete the appearance of my Raven necromancer norn.

Ooohh what else do you have making up the appearance?

I’ll tell you when it’s done.

Avian shoulders!

Honestly, I can see us fighting trahearne and all of destiny’s edge as raid bosses, considering what we know of mordremoth and how he uses people as sort of templates to create his soldiers.

I just need reaper sooooo bad already, I’m having withdrawals man!

Nike.2631:

Where’s all this free crit chance coming from?

I was thinking Precision could help drive chilling nova and the Curses line has several proc-on-crit effects that would appeal to condi-Necro/Reaps. But swaping it to straight Power might be simplest.

Death Perception in the soul reaping line, and decimate defenses in the reaper line, and really decimate defenses is the best one compared to it’s competition.

Muchacho.2390:

TheLastNobody.8319:

Muchacho.2390:

Gliding has a big problem… and that is that you only will be able to glide in the HoT maps…

I hope that sums up well what i think about gliding…

….you hate it and think it should be removed?

That or you think it’s a tuna.

No i am sad that we will only be able to glide in the Hot maps (i want to glide everywhere). I really liked it.

And by the way is “it is a tuna” some kind of phase? (To clearify i am not a native english speaker)

Ah no, it’s just something random I throw out to prevent any potential heated arguement a from coming up. Can never tell on the Internet. I call it defusal humor!

Labjax.2465:

Speculation is going to cause more market chaos than the actual changes.

Your best bet is probably to sacrifice a goat to the great twenty-sided die in the sky and do a barrel roll. If that doesn’t work, then I don’t know what to tell you.

Human sacrifice?

Xyonon.3987:

So … can blast gyro crit now? :| Everything else is awesome!

Xyonon.3987:

Overall gyro CD still bugs me a bit. You want them to be dead as fast as possible to reuse them again. Just let the CD start at summon, not dead. Increase elite gyro CD a bit.

Irenio CalmonHuang.2048:

Gyros now start their cooldown upon summon rather than upon gyro death.

I’m especially glad you took my advice about the CD start when the gyro is created! _

Furthermore I hope you spread this same system to other professions, like elementals, spirit weapons and mantras.

They did that once with mantras,.dear god….the horrors man. The horrors. DONt MAKE ME RELIVE THaT!