I don’t believe the Trading Post should be removed, but I do believe that all items should be made “Account Bind on Purchase,” so that you can sell whatever you own on the TP, and you can buy anything you like on the TP, but you cannot buy stuff with the intent to sell it.
Congratulations. You just increased inflation by one thousand percent.
You know those “speculation spikes” you see after almost every new patch? Millions of leather squares, silk, or peppercorn, going up and down in price in the course of an evening? They suck the money out of the economy like there’s no tomorrow. I know of no gold sink in any game that so successfully drains the economy of its currency than the TP. Nothing rivals it.
How would inflation increase by 1000% ? You would still have buy and sell orders, so prices would maintain an equilibrium. Prices wouldn’t just skyrocket because people wouldn’t buy things they don’t need if they could never re-sell them, so it’s not like someone would be out buying up all the mats/items and driving the price up.
As players personal wealth increased, it wouldn’t change TP prices because people still would not buy a bunch of stuff they don’t need. If anything, prices would fall because people would be buying less (only what they need) and not reselling things.
The only reason to get to 500 is to craft ascended gear which is not sellable. There is nothing at 500 that will generate a profit for you.
That’s been my experience as well. I started a personal bank guild about 6 months ago originally to store intermediate cooking ingredients, but I now use it for all kinds of stuff and keep most of my gold in there. I haven’t had any issues so far.
As long as you don’t change your privileges or rank or leave the guild you should be fine.
Why would you store gold in the bank? It doesn’t take up bag space and with the addition of the wallet system, you can access it with any character anytime.
Some people have said they like to put their money in the guild bank to make sure they don’t accidentally buy too much from the trading post because of lag. Others like to have each character maintain it’s own amount of money for roleplay reasons. They keep tabs of which has how much and withdraw that amount each time or use an starting empty bank balance each day to make it easier to tell.
Yeah that makes sense. I wasn’t criticizing, I literally could not think of a reason why someone would do that.
Ahahahahahahahaha.
I can’t wait until the disappointment and tears which will undoubtedly happen when people discover that the precursor hunt is going to be RIDICULOUSLY grindy.
I would love to agree with you. However, ANet has been notorious for underestimating their playerbase with respect to their projected completion timeframes.
Whatever they are currently projecting in terms of effort to complete the hunt, unless they increase those efforts tenfold, and then double it again for good measure, it’s unlikely it’ll be the grind that you and I anticipate and expect.
It’s all relative really. No matter what the hunt involves, the casual players will take a long time to complete it and the hardcore players will have one in a week.
Considering that there is nothing in the store that you NEED to play the game or be stronger than anyone else, your argument is instantly invalid. Keep in mind that, for the most part, you are buying cosmetic items. Also, you never have to spend a dime of your own money if you choose to thanks to anet allowing players to convert gold to gems.
As far as pricing, two things:
1. Your argument of “if prices were lower, people would spend more” is getting old and tiresome. You know how many times people post that on these forums? Sure, they might get a little boost in sales, but they would have to sell twice as much stuff if they halved the cost of an item and I don’t think sales would double if the prices were slashed. I think we can trust anet to make their own financial decisions on pricing considering they are doing just fine.
2. The ONLY source of revenue anet generates after you purchase the game is from gem sales. Think about that for a little. With all the additional content they release for free they have to make the money to pay all those employees somehow.
As far as keys go, those to me are overpriced, but only because it is an RNG system that you will lose out on far more than you will win. Having said that, they sell and they sell well so I guess, who am I to judge?
Create a character and go to the pvp area (Heart of the mists). There your character will be level 80 and all skills and traits will be unlocked. It is an easy and relatively quick way to get an idea of what the class is and what it does.
It’s a good question. However, underwater combat isn’t really a big thing in this game. There is lots of water, but most everything in it is just map complete stuff (i.e. vistas/sp/wp). So, it’s not like you really need the extra stat boosts.
That’s been my experience as well. I started a personal bank guild about 6 months ago originally to store intermediate cooking ingredients, but I now use it for all kinds of stuff and keep most of my gold in there. I haven’t had any issues so far.
As long as you don’t change your privileges or rank or leave the guild you should be fine.
Why would you store gold in the bank? It doesn’t take up bag space and with the addition of the wallet system, you can access it with any character anytime.
I see the argument that people should actually play their characters to level 80 so they know how to play them when they get to that point, and it is a valid point, but who does that really affect other than the person playing that toon? Sure, if they join dungeon groups and get carried, that is a problem, but most people who join PUG groups now have no clue and they most likely have played from scratch and still have no clue.
OTOH, once I have leveled a char or two and have played for 1000+ hours, I don’t really want to grind out 80 levels again with another toon. The exp scrolls are not very abundant for most people. It would have been nice if they would have kept crafting at 10 levels per craft, so people could still craft to 80.
What they should do is offer those experience scrolls in the gem store so people can level alts quicker. Maybe like a 20 lvl and a 40 lvl scroll. That way people can eliminate some of the grind, but still have to either craft or play the toon. They should also make it so you can use them anytime instead of just for the first 20/40 levels.
To the OP: It is not ANET’s fault that crafting has become so expensive. Prices of mats rise and so does the cost of crafting. Materials were not going to stay cheap forever regardless of ascended crafting.
The easiest solution to the “problem” of TP flipping is to make all items purchased from the TP account bound. You keep the ability to be able to buy what you need for the casual people so they don’t have to grind and you keep all the flippers out of the mix.
So I just had an epiphany.
Stacking in melee on monsters to negate their ranged attacks is the same as kiting to negate melee attacks from monsters.
Therefore, calling stacking on monsters like the spider queen in AC an exploit is essentially saying that anyone who kites or stays out of melee range of monsters an exploit.
Did that ephinany hit when you read my and another couple posts talking about the exact same thing?
People don’t even bother to read a half sentence in the LFG tool, why on earth would you expect them to read through 10 posts before replying to a thread?
I can’t see the point in crafting exotics just to salvage them. It is a frustrating sink hole for materials that took the whole game to accumulate.
You don’t craft to salvage. That is a waste of money/mats. Buy the cheapest exotics you can find on the TP and salvage those.
now we have character in the world of tyria that unites an elitist with a bearbow?
dayuhm.but seriously…that bearbow thing is getting old.
i only had once (ONCE) a pug with a serious bearbow. (even though, he was just like at 300 range, he autoattacked with his greatbow and bear out…)
however, i wish more rangers would pop out their cheetah (or red moa if no horn) in dungeons.
i can’t be the only ranger that thinks constant 5-6 might (and/or fury) for your team is useful…
Yeah, I know it’s getting old. I actually really don’t care what class people run in dungeons. I don’t mind taking a little extra time as long as people know the paths, play as a team and we don’t wipe 5 times.
I just thought the funny part was his comment about everyone standing out of the way so he can “do some damage”. Still makes me laugh.
I think the biggest reason is cost balance.
If it cost 3 skill points, who would ever buy it from Marjory for 250 pristine spores and 5 gold? It would have to be like 25 spores and 20 silver or something to balance out.
And why would that be bad? Because it sure as hell isn’t worth the cost now.
I didn’t say it was necessarily a bad thing. I just think that is the reason for the high SP cost.
Bet you never thought you would see those words, right?
Seriously though, it didn’t happen. However, I was PUGing SE P3 last night and we were at volkov (Real bad with names, the first boss fight). Group was pretty low DPS, but I come to expect that with PUG’s. People kept getting downed, and I kept trying to rez until I eventually went down and died. As I lay there dead, 2 teammates were left fighting and, the Bearbow Ranger in the group actually said,
Drum roll please…….
“Guys, stay away from me and I can do some real damage :P”
Sometimes I really love PUG’s.
I believe you can buy it from the guild commendation vendor.
I would imagine that if the next LS has us invading into the tower, which seems to make the most sense, she would probably be leading us in there. At that point, her location may change and the recipes may be gone.
I could see it either way.
Penguin is right. ^^
How can anyone think that a sp a day for free is something that should be given to players? Using that logic, it becomes a slippery slope as to what should and should not be given to players for simply clicking the login button.
I will agree though that having a “place of power” in your home instance is pretty unnecessary and a pretty awful reward for the LS achievements. Definitely the worst one I can think of off the top of my head. There are already tons of these throughout Tyria. Compared to the mining instances in the previous LS, this pales in comparison by a large margin.
I think the biggest reason is cost balance.
If it cost 3 skill points, who would ever buy it from Marjory for 250 pristine spores and 5 gold? It would have to be like 25 spores and 20 silver or something to balance out.
And to those who will say make it that way. It would be ludicrously easy to obtain at that point because you get so many spores just playing the living story for 10 minutes.
I think the overall sentiment is somewhat correct. The skill, at this point, is pretty useless. However, I would be curious what some of you would say if it was a really good and useful skill and you didn’t have that as a reason not to complain.
On the other hand, it really isn’t that hard to farm 250 spores if you are doing the LS achievements and, if you aren’t, what reason would you need/want it for anyway?
Ranger in PvE is simple. Get a bear to hold agro and use a bow. They can stand off at a distance and pew pew most mobs down. And I bet most kids would enjoy having a faithful pet friend to tame, name, and play with.
Warrior is good but can be fragile against mobs that have a lot of conditions. Guardians are much tankier and may be a better choice if deciding between these 2.
NOOOOOOOOO
Don’t start em as bearbow rangers. What will this game be in 5 years? All bearbow all the time…… :P
The RNG formula is flawed, there is a major programming mistake in there somewhere and I can’t be convinced otherwise. The same people seem to get reward after reward, be it drops, precursors, tickets, exotics etc while others always get nothing. I am in the second group. Some say its just luck—sorry don’t buy that either. When one group of players consistently get good rewards (or whatever) and another group of players consistently get junk or nothing, then there is a problem.
Well some people have suspected that there are “lucky accounts”. But, you could easily drive yourself crazy trying to reason or understand RNG.
Yeah not really a great game for 7 and 10 year olds. Doesn’t anyone know why kids are so screwed up these days?
Disclaimer: I have a 3 and 6 year old.
I’ve probably spent about $120 or so since starting last January. I do it to support the game as I play pretty often. I rarely buy RNG stuff, couple dye/mini packs here and there when I am bored. I did just buy the 25 key discount pack to try my hand at RNG and failed miserably, but meh, figured that going in. I don’t ever trade gold —> Gems as I feel like my time is more valuable than money.
(Tried to) Solo the Champ Marauder in N Wayfarer this morning…..I called out in MAP chat a few times and waited a few minutes, but nobody ever showed up, (it was before 7AM Central US time) so I thought “what the heck, I’ll give it a shot”.
How does this relate to the OP? lol.. anyway,
Although it doesn’t relate to loot problems, it does pertain to the topic title “OMG Frustration”.
Sell small claws on TP
Buy tiny claws on TP
Problem solved
Because it contradicts Anets business model of micro transactions.
Whatever is gained through the gem store by RNG, favours gem purchases with cash, as soon as they make it tradable on the TP, they have to deal with a surplus of unwanted supply making these items less desirable and devaluating their product.
Gem store items that are obtainable at a fixed price, like mini packs for example, are useless on the TP because they have a fixed rate of gold through the gold->gem conversion.
I guess it would then show that anet’s gem store prices are way too high on a lot of items?
I remember a thread a while ago where someone was complaining that all the boosters and other stuff many people don’t really want should be removed from the BLC. And I also remember many people saying they shouldn’t because they felt like they would like to have them.
I think making them tradable would go a long way to show the true value of items like those. Obviously, anet would never do it because of the reasons you stated. But, if you feel like the items would be devalued, that means they just aren’t really wanted in the first place and they are way overpriced.
1750 gold? LOL
You would have to restyle your hair every hour for like 6 months to make your money back based on the price of the single use gem store version.
Secondly, I don’t understand the mentality of people like you who would ever find it “shameful” that someone would make money on a video game dye. Why, because it is a color that is used to signify support of breast cancer awareness? Yeah, shame on those crazy people……
Yup, and you probably never will. GG
Our society has become one in which everyone has now been trained subconsciously to shame each other so we all feel bad about ourselves and succumb to what ever the flavor of the day minority (or majority) opinion happens to be. What do you think this whole political correctness movement over the last 10 years has been all about?
You may find the pink dye situation shameful even though it was more likely an issue of supply being used up long before demand could catch up and not an issue of people just profiteering. However, you and all others who wish to shame everyone else for whatever you don’t like is disgusting in it’s own right and the real issue with topics like this. So, GG to you sir.
If you cannot distinguish exploiting something like breast cancers awareness from what a “flavor of the day” opinion might be, then that says it all and then some.
It’s the same mentality that has been created for people to adopt, it doesn’t matter what the topic happens to be. So, I can’t distinguish what you are talking about, because it doesn’t exist.
But, I guess, enough about this. This isn’t even the proper venue to discuss such things.
Secondly, I don’t understand the mentality of people like you who would ever find it “shameful” that someone would make money on a video game dye. Why, because it is a color that is used to signify support of breast cancer awareness? Yeah, shame on those crazy people……
Yup, and you probably never will. GG
Our society has become one in which everyone has now been trained subconsciously to shame each other so we all feel bad about ourselves and succumb to what ever the flavor of the day minority (or majority) opinion happens to be. What do you think this whole political correctness movement over the last 10 years has been all about?
You may find the pink dye situation shameful even though it was more likely an issue of supply being used up long before demand could catch up and not an issue of people just profiteering. However, you and all others who wish to shame everyone else for whatever you don’t like is disgusting in it’s own right and the real issue with topics like this. So, GG to you sir.
OP, the prices will rise because all the sale orders on the TP will get bought out until people get to the prices that were lingering on the TP for a while, especially if it was all bought out fairly quickly. It doesn’t mean that 100’s of people are just relisting their dyes at a high cost. Supply simply could not keep up with short term demand.
Secondly, I don’t understand the mentality of people like you who would ever find it “shameful” that someone would make money on a video game dye. Why, because it is a color that is used to signify support of breast cancer awareness? Yeah, shame on those crazy people……
Not really sure what you mean by “hope they spent gold made on something good”. What does that even mean? Like a nice piece of armor? We are still talking about currency in a video game right?
I run all Zerk stuff.
Why? Because I do PVE only and DPS is king at the moment.
Obvious things are obvious.
1. Much better? Nope.
2. Force, Night, Slaying, Energy, Perception. Any of these will work out.
Thank you for the reply oxxy.
When you say “much better?, Nope”, I assume that it can be better. What could I do to improve on the build?
that build isn’t really optimal, even if you don’t want virtues points 25 radiance > 25 zeal.
if you want to use gs/hammer use the 15/15/0/20/20 or 15/25/0/20/10 hammer based spreads, which provide great survivability while doing good damage and having consecrations traited.
in my experience these builds are very pug friendly (esp compared to the builds with less in honour) and perma prot makes it easier to run full zerk. if you’re not comfortable in full zerk just run knight helm/chest/pants, everything else zerk.
This is basically my build that I run. 15/15/0/20/20 GS/Hammer.
I PUG everything and run full zerk.
2 Questions:
1. Is there a much better build out there for PVE/dungeons/some fractals? I don’t do pvp or wvw.
2. What sigils/runes should I be running on my weapons and armor?
Recently rolled a Mesmer. Crafted him to about 20 as I want to have 2 crafts per toon so I don’t have to pay to change between them, plus it speeds leveling.
What is the best gear to level with? From what I have read, Mesmer can be kind of a challenge until you hit 80? I know the end game meta is zerker, but is it something that is a good idea to start with?
What weapons are the best? GS + x ? What is best for range?
Also, not sure what type of build I want to shoot for in the end, but what order would you add to traits as you level?
TIA
Spear is an underwater weapon that can be used by a warrior.
I wouldn’t worry too much about traiting for underwater combat, it isn’t something that happens often enough to worry about even in pve. Just grab the zerker spear and dive in!
Pretty much this ^^
Nerfs and Buffs are going to occur many times over the lifespan of a game. Sometimes one class will be up while the other is down as anet tries to balance things as best as they can. That’s not to say they are doing an overall good job, but that’s best left for another discussion.
That said, stop QQing and either deal with tomorrow’s patch, which on a side note, you have no idea what all the changes really are, or reroll another toon and come back to guardian when you feel they are more properly buffed.
The problem with what you want from anet’s perspective is it defeats the purpose of why they are adding time gated materials. They want you to log in everyday. That is how they feel they maximize their potential profit.
They should have never allowed those time gated mats on to the TP if they wanted to keep a true time gate. Still, they basically are time gating the casual crowd, which is really who the time gated items are geared toward.
I don’t remember ever seeing numbers popping up showing damage when you throw a crystal at him, so I would venture to say it’s just a percentage of his health per crystal. Of course, that is just an assumption.
Maybe that’s how they wanted it in the first place. The farmers/hardcore players that have all the gold to buy the timegated items will login every day anyway. How else did they get all that gold? Whereas it gets the casuals to login every day.
One thing they forgot is that ascended costs so much, most casuals don’t even try and just ignore it all together.
This^^
They tried to flood the market with gold and t6 mats in anticipation of the ascended weapon release, but it wasn’t enough or it didn’t work because the inflation on ori and ancient wood was crazy high and ended up forcing 98% of the player base to spend 150+ gold to level crafting in one craft alone if they wanted. That is something most casuals probably don’t have.
Why in the world would you attempt to gamble if you had enough gold for 2 legendary’s? There isn’t a single person that I have ever heard that endorses using the MF to acquire a legendary.
RNG will always be RNG.
This game really does boil down to a DPS race in most cases. From your description, you probably want to play guardian (reflects, blocks, self/group heals).
Most of the damage mitigation comes from dodging in this game. The rest comes from stats based on your choice of armor and weapons.
First off, the only thing that is RNG about legendaries is acquiring the precursor, which you can still buy with gold.
Secondly, it is way too late to change the method of making legendaries. They have announced they will make precursors craftable which will get rid of the RNG aspect of it.
Lastly, anet designed the game to be a “play how you want” game. Given they have gone against that principle more as of late, you shouldn’t HAVE to play every area of the game to such a hardcore level to make a legendary. Changing legendary acquisition to something that would benefit you sounds selfish and not well thought out. Other than the precursor RNG, it isn’t that easy to get one as is.
Disclaimer: I do NOT own a legendary and don’t plan to either.
I think you can buy the inscriptions on the TP.
Wanze there are stats you can’t get from laurels etc. They said before they would eventually make those stats available. I can see them using jewelcrafting as a way to give us access to those stats. Just look at carrion/chrysocola for example.
I could see them adding in infusions into the mix as well to make it more useful though.
Or they could just add those stats to the laurel vendors that are already there.
@Everyone.
I have no idea why any of you are saying the OP is assuming there is some sort of manipulation on the TP. That is not at all how I read it.
I know, they all reacted on the first guy that commented on my post. It was too much fun doing that than staying on topic. Granted, one guy stayed on topic though, and speculated people sold their cooking stock as a result of there probably not being ascended cooking in this patch. It doesn’t explain the other materials though, but whatever. Let’s see what this patch brings: if it contains lots of people concentrating in Orr, we’ll know there was another nice lil’ leak.
Actually, the first like 8 posts were all tin foil hat posts, but either way. I think you have/had a good question.
Save it or delete it are really the only options. It’s too expensive to turn it into bricks that you may never use. I would say keep it in case you need it more for armor, but it’s so abundant you can get stacks a day. I’m saving mine in case it is needed in higher quantities for armor (maybe you will need 10 bricks per piece, who knows.). At that point, if it isn’t needed, I will probably delete all I have.
@Everyone.
I have no idea why any of you are saying the OP is assuming there is some sort of manipulation on the TP. That is not at all how I read it.
wait…i may be a noob here but why did candy corn shoot up? wouldn’t more people have it during the event? Shouldn’t the price of it plummet?
They announced things like 20 slot bags. Something most people can always use more of for alts and such, purchase for candy corn (and likely some other hard to get item trololol). Items like that will cause the price to spike intially, and will hold it above stupid low levels like last year, because the bags will always have value.
They are getting much better about realizing that if you throw millions of an item in the game, there better be something worth using it on.
Except for wigs, dresses, tiaras, aetherblade keys…. oh wait….. hmmm…..
Please don’t forget Bloodstone Dust….