From Teku Nuhoch WP just go down the hall and take 2 lefts. You’ll be in the room.
yes, there is even an escort event which takes you from TN down that tunnel to near to the POI
been trying for a week, organising maps an hour in advance…..
Finally just given up. Its just absurd with the way map populations are so low.
Today it just struck me, I’m no longer having fun in GW2. I have no desire to log on and play. And thats entirely from the TD map.
I just want the meta to get my mistward headpiece, and it seams such a simple goal, but night after night, I spend hours trying to get it done, organising maps etc, and it fails each time, sometimes close, sometimes not.
But this is more effort than a raiding guild….and its just not fun.
I’ll give it a few days, see if I summon any enthusiasm, but I really hope anet sort this kitten out.
How are people beating Tangled Depths Meta?
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ok, nerf map pops for teq to 15 people and then do it….because thats the issue here with TD, not the event mechanics, but the absurdly low map populations.
It’s a known bug that ANet is aware of. As such it’s not really a valid critique of the event itself. The current “solution” is to keep spamming that join button and eventually you’ll join the map…
yes it is a valid critique until its kitten well fixed.
Until then, its a literally gamebreaking issue.
You cant go “look, its broken as kitten for reason X, but we know about it, so we can ignore it…”
hi all ,
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I tried to stick it as long as I could, but kitten that music was awful
Revenant is like guardian, but slightly better at everything and have more engaging mechanics.
but half finished.
annoying bugs, legends dont work underwater, meaning you have ot manually swap. Sword 3 causes you to clip into the map (like mes blink on release!), the glint facet bug still occurs in the old maps, and you get a kittening ugly disco light under you all the time which is really annoying….
I like revs, but its not a polished experience yet!
Seriously guys, give me one good reason to go for DH’s longbow. Every skill is weak, barely doing any damage and doesn’t apply any condition whatsoever except that nice burn, which is again – bit weak.
Please, for DH’s name, buff that longbow(or at least in PvE).
is this sarcasm?
Just incase its not, the consensus is DH is op as hell right now.
Am I only one who doesn’t like that huge ugly ground icon? Why there is no toggle to set it invisible for yourself/everyone?
yeah, its really really ugly.
Why they did not do a nice effect like orbiting runes or something, rather than this lame piece of kitten I dont know. Seams rushed and tacked on at the end due to lack of time and effort……oh wait, thats the whole profession!
How are people beating Tangled Depths Meta?
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That was the excuse a week or so ago and the same for the other metas like Tarir and DS. But we’ve gotten those figured out and they get done pretty routinely by now.
TD on the other hand just has so many different ways it can fail, and they fail far too quickly as well.
And that was the same excuse back when Teq first came up. But lo and behold, several months later everyone and their mother are succeeding that event.
As far as TD goes, it took me one commander explanation and two runs to figure out the “hardest” lane, and now I can do it whichever way you like blindfolded. It’s quite an easy event, if you are willing to go the “extra mile” and actually familiarize yourself with the event.
There is nothing wrong with the event itself, the problem is motivation and knowledge of pugs. They will learn much more slowly and will take much more time to adapt their play style, but they will if they wish to succeed. It may take a week or a month but eventually pugs will learn the bare minimum of what needs to be done to finish the event.My suggestion to everyone who is passionate about beating TD is to either be patient or find (or organize) a group of like minded individuals.
ok, nerf map pops for teq to 15 people and then do it….because thats the issue here with TD, not the event mechanics, but the absurdly low map populations.
The event is on the east side of Auric Basin (Bristleback Chasm waypoint) and happens immediately after you help the exalted guys unlock the 3 pylons for that side.
When you get into an organized map it usually goes down pretty quickly. I’ve seen it happen 3 or 4 times without too many issues.
I was there at the third pylon when it was done, but I didnt see a legendary Vinetooth spawn to eat the sage. Does it happen in front of the east gate after the 3rd pylon is active?
after the 3rd pylon wait a little bit near the way point a VT will spawn and run north to the cave under the HP north of the eastern WP, and fight there.
How are people beating Tangled Depths Meta?
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Same here. I’d really like to complete this meta then ditch this map for good XD plz guild invite<3 I’m full zerk ascended necro, been spamming gravedigger with max damage and 100% crit on gerent. Dps still doesn’t seem good enough so I can only assume the rest of the map isnt running dps, or gerent needs a health nerf…
the trick to kill it, is to not break its cc bar, then it just stays still and you can wail on it.
Break the bar and it goes crazy and jumps all over the place!
But the real problem is not the gerent, is the map population system.
How are people beating Tangled Depths Meta?
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There are several issue with this event, and solving just one of them could make this a lot more doable.
When I say doable I do not mean easier, I’m not asking for anyone to give me things for free or make the game extremely casual.
exactly, I dont want it easy, I want it reasonably possible.
Right now, people dont do it because it does not suceed, ever. So that will just get worse and worse. I’ve tried for days to get people organised, and we would be ok I think if we had enough people, but the map is apparantly full and yet we have less than 10 people per lane……
Ok, the TD meta is a mess. Here are a few suggestions to make it better:
1. put a counter on the event where it tracks the number of players around each lane’s NPC.
2. Do NOT start the meta until there are 10+ (preferably 15+) players in each lane.
3. Make it so that if a lane fails, you get lower rewards (like AB meta) not an instant fail.
4. fix the kitten map population issues.
5. If you cant do any of the above, then lower the difficulty but a lot so it can be completed. I’d prefer the other options, but right now, its pretty much impossible and getting harder because people are just not bothering to even try.
The other problem with the new map Metas is the lead in, people are so used ot just taxi-ing to bosses (due to the boss timer schedule, love how you went back on that one from your manifesto…..), and so dont help with the build up which makes the lanes easier.
Right now, the map meta can only be done with a totally coordinated guild on TS, who happen to managed to get 80 people all on the same map….in other words its a kitten miracle its been done even once.
There’s twio hero challenge locked behind ley line gliding. One in Dragon’s stand ( spider queen area ) and one in Auric Bassin.
So there’s that I guess too.
nothing in Aurics basin is locked behind lay line gliding.
Nor any other gimmick, I have 100% map completion there, and I dont have ley line gliding and I have not abused any of the “tricks” to get into certain areas.
You can legitimately get all points in AB without it, it may just require some convoluted gliding, and you will need lean techniques.
another evening, another list of failures trying to get DS and TD meta’s……
Sorry Anet, your open world content is kitten. VB is ok, and AB is ok in that even with the absurdly low map pops you at least finish the meta even if the rewards are lower…..but TD in particular is just frustrating.
No point continuing to play if this is not fixed, its just too frustrating.
I’ve not got a massive issue, though it seams odd they’d do this, but what ever.
My problem is I’ll never see the headpiece (though I can transmog it from starter gear pieces)….as the metas in the last 2 maps never happen.
yeah, maps feeling deserted is a massive turn off for this content. Meta events being badly designed for the map populations (the events are fine if the pops were higher).
Feeling of a solo game in the new maps 90% of the time.not an MMO.
Compared to the old content, which still has large numbers of players in, either the expansion did not sell well or the new maps have really low pop limits….or people just are not playing them. something is off and it needs addressing really quickly.
been trying to get TD or DS metas done to complete my mistward set……not happening.
Events go no where.
This is just absurd. The mega server system is killing the meta events. A game shoudl not be designed around players taxi ing people into maps, and even then only a small number can fit on a map.
I’m pretty much done with GW2 if this is not sorted, its just impossible to experience the content. More and more the devs seam to be developing in a bubble thats totally disconnected from the actual experience of players, it happened in wow for a while and the same thing appears to be happening here.
Or you can you know, login one time during the two weeks that event is available and have it unlocked for free.
It is unlock forever, for the account.
surely you pay for the content when you pay for hte game and the expansion?
Charging extra because you did not log in for a couple of weeks is just kittenty.
You need to taxi to full maps with LFG. The game evenly distributes people, and then they abandon maps to move to maps with max population to make doing the meta easier.
I don’t care what you do, but if you’re interested in playing the events, that’s how you do it.
thats just kitten server design, the game should fill up maps
not just you.
Either the map pop limit is absurdly small, or the mega server tech is screwed and people are being shoved into empty maps.
This one thing is killing HOT for me, meta events just do not happen outside of VB or possibly AB on occasion.,
[POLL] Which is your LEAST fav map in HoT?
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Tangled Depths might be a nightmare but at least it has character. Dragon’s Stand is just a big forest with 3 roads cutting through it, and if no one is running the meta event the whole zone is practically closed off.
yeah, it seams that TD and DS are just rushed out and not complete.
VB and AB are so much better experiences in every way and seam much better thought out and “finished”.
[POLL] Which is your LEAST fav map in HoT?
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Posted by: Cameirus.8407
TD – annoying in every way imaginable. Seams designed deliberately to be frustrating and annoying.
Hard to navigate, hard to get to events, hard to find HPs etc….
The meta never succeeds, people just cant be kitten d.
I’m not asking for a Legendary/[insert rare item here] today. But I don’t want it five months from now, either.
When does waiting becomes waiting for too long? That’s the question. There’s a boundary where the whole experience becomes off-putting.
Yeah, seems reasonable to me. The thing is, from the evidence, it looks like Anet may believe it’s supposed to take far longer. I don’t know what their number is. 6 months? 9 months? A year? Two? Do they have an average?
long enough to spend a kittenload on gems and convert to gold, then visit the TP….
I hope Caithe is next. Story will benefit from lack of annoying cabbage-heads.
Logan. Kill logan. Please.
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Also, I dont want to be commander. WoW did that, and it was crap.
I was sad they did this, seamed totally unnecessary, after the fight, you showed you could defeat the dragon, you should have redeemed the T.
I was however glad when they killed off the annoying norn, cheered at the screen when that happened.
Mega server means there’ll be people on the map. .
does not seam to be working in the new maps, as they seam empty most of the time, and you continually get the notification to move to a more populated map (which is also empty) and lose your map participation bonus if you do…..
I see other players that have already done it running past as the rewards are terrible and don’t encourage anyone to complete them again after getting their points.
My favorite is getting yelled at for not helping with META events and people saying HPs should be disabled during them.
Yeah, whats happened to the community in this game, no one responds in map chat, no one helps each other out anymore, people dont ress at bosses and events just ignore downed players……it surprised me when I came back for the expansion just how much its changed in teh months I’d been gone.
I try to help out where I can, I’ve done the Auric basin HPs so many times now! As I know how hard and annoying it is to get people to lend a hand when you want to unlock your elite spec and have fun with it. Its disheartening to have no one answer in chat at all when you just need a few more HPs to finish your spec off or get map completion.
As for the meta….well I can understand, they are hard enough to get done 100% as it is, and the people trying to get the meta done are annoyed by people not helping…and the people doing HPs are annoyed by no one helping them…..So much of this expansion just breeds frustration.
hammer 2. Big wind up, slow moving aoe chain……
On a (fairly short) CD…..
I apologize beforehand if this has been posted before, I can’t find it on the forums.
I’m generally fine with gating map completion behind a challenge. I don’t mind some places being unreachable without beating Octovine, or without having the appropriate mastery. But I’d like to kindly ask if you could reconsider gating the map completion of Auric Basin behind a story progress gate. It makes sense in-universe, I admit, and I happilly jumped in on my main charr (who can’t, in cruel irony, complete the map, because he’s the only one with 100% Tyria completion).
But forcing us to do story with alts is not something I’d like to see, here or in the future. Please, consider the part of your fanbase and playerbase that consists of roleplayers. And roleplayers, especially nitpicky ones, refuse to have 9 pact commanders running around. My personal story on many of my charrs still sits on “contact your warband in home instance”, because I simply don’t want them to follow the very same path others before them did.
While I can bypass the inability to enter my racial homeinstance by entering anyone else’s, locking a POI, a vista (and to some degree, sanctum scramble, but its completion’s account-wide anyway) behind a mandatorily chosen chapter in story is just wrong. I’d like to kindly remind you Claw Island also doesn’t count for Map completion.
And quite frankly, even if I wasn’t a roleplayer, doing the same 8 chapters of story 9 times over just to reach a single place is just plain stupid.
I’m more annoyed at the POI gated behind exalted acceptance….
I am fine with event gating, but masteries should make things easier to get, not act as a hard gate to stop people not getting them.
If there were few players on the map you would get a message saying so, and an offer to join a more populated map.
get them every 15mins or so……
I think the difficulty is discouraging players from doing it. And the map itself is already not a lot of peoples favorite.
I think it would be wise to make it a little easier so that more people will play it. Super hard challenges are awesome in raids, but open world events should be doable with a map full of pugs.
no one is doing any of the metas…..
The most popular one appears to be Auric basin, but even then, I’ve only ever seen enough people there to get all 4 sides done once. Mostly its 2 sides, and sometimes even just 1. And most of the time mid way through the events you get a “too few players in this map” notice, and have to choose between shiftign and losing all progress, or staying and getting a poor result because of not enough people.
Tangled depths….lol, no one bothers at all.
As for DS….dont even bother.
Anet really screwed up these maps. No one cares enough about the events to do them, and they require too many people…..who are not on the maps. If events are not being done now, they will just get worse as tiem goes on.
Uhhm yeah.
Saw VB with 5 Bosses Done 3 Times Today. AB is relatively easy done and my Gildies have done DS on a Random Map with completing the last Event in less than 20 Minutes.
The only thing that is as hard as Anet announced is Tangled Dephts, There are enough who try it and there will be enough who will continue to try it.
There is much more going on than you say. MUCH MORE.
well unless you play on some super secret special servers, thats not the case. maps are pretty empty all the time.
Auric is ok, if you can coordinate, you can do each side with 10 people each, but only if poeple know what to do. But still, often its only 1 or 2 lanes. as for the rest…..
yeah, I think they went a little all in on masteries.
They are fine and all, but a lot are just uninteresting and are basically grind gates. Ones like gliding add gameplay…..ones like lore, or poison mastery etc, dont. They are pure grind gates.
I think the difficulty is discouraging players from doing it. And the map itself is already not a lot of peoples favorite.
I think it would be wise to make it a little easier so that more people will play it. Super hard challenges are awesome in raids, but open world events should be doable with a map full of pugs.
no one is doing any of the metas…..
The most popular one appears to be Auric basin, but even then, I’ve only ever seen enough people there to get all 4 sides done once. Mostly its 2 sides, and sometimes even just 1. And most of the time mid way through the events you get a “too few players in this map” notice, and have to choose between shiftign and losing all progress, or staying and getting a poor result because of not enough people.
Tangled depths….lol, no one bothers at all.
As for DS….dont even bother.
Anet really screwed up these maps. No one cares enough about the events to do them, and they require too many people…..who are not on the maps. If events are not being done now, they will just get worse as tiem goes on.
The more I play the more I get the feeling it was shoved out the door before it was ready.
From the quite shocking bugs with the Herald spec for Revs (underwater, facets dropping when level scaling changes…) to the lack of content in some map areas, I particularly like the magic waterfall in verdant brink where the water runs horizontally out from the ground for a few ft before it realises there is gravity and it starts to fall……
There are many bugs and errors, and thats to some extent expected, although even a half kitten d QA team should have picked up bugs that any player playing a spec for more than an hour must have noticed…..But there is a feeling that work on large areas of this expansion was just shoddy or rushed.
I keep seeing people complaining about how mastery’s split people up, how “there aren’t enough” people at certain bosses, etc. and THAT’S THE POINT.
Events and bosses scale incredibly hard in the new content. It’s much easier to do events/bosses with fewer people rather than more. It’s best to spread out and get things done in groups of 5 – 10 not an omni-blob of 100 otherwise the bosses get more health or the events spawn a ton of champions.
I know it’s hard for people to grasp because of how all the other content in the game works but it’s not the same for HoT, or at least the majority of it.
And on that note: I’ve been farming the hell out of Verdant Brink and the same thing happens every single night cycle. A bunch of camps get overrun by the Mordrem because people are piling up in one place and the map never gets past T2. That, or a bunch of people just AFK until the legendary’s spawn and all blob them one at a time which takes twice as long because the health scales so much.
Just spread the word that it’s better not to zerg everything on the new maps. I hate to be that person who’s nagging it all the time.
yeah, right, its all zerg. firstly to take out break bars you need lots of people to hopefully make up for people not seaming to know how to use cc abilities.
Also, the makes do a kitten poor job of communicating how to do events and meta’s so people wont split, they will jump on the nearest commander tag.
Unless something has changed in the last week, GW2 has never done that. It was always dumps you into a lower population map if you were in a full/high one
There is a quote from Colin where he states the game is designed to save your spot in the map for a short time if you crash. It is not working 100%, however, or maybe not at all for Full/Capped Maps.
its not working at all it seams.
finally got the legendary vinethingy fight which drops the item you need for Glints shield…..fighting boss, going well,…>Crashes.
Load back into new map.
kittened off.
Why does the game not remember your map for say 10mins after you leave so that if the game crashes (which it never used to do before the expansion), you dont lose map progress or boss fights.
I’m sure this has been raised, but I’m raising it again.
Herald is not usable underwater, but whilst it deactivates, an alternative underwater set of abilities (say demon) dont activate to replace them. As other classes have different underwater skill sets if their normal skills dont work underwater, why not Herald?
Its incredibly annoying to have to manually change to a new aspect when you enter and leave water.
This is an incredibly basic thing for gameplay, did no dev actually ever take a Herald specced Rev into water? I find that hard to believe, so why has this not been addressed?
Again I find myself giving up and just logging off after trying to find people doing events
How fun.
already given up on events in the new maps, no one doing them except a very small number of specific events. Maps are hard to navigate, too large so the players that are there are too spread out.
Eye candy design. It looks nice, but does not play well.
The maps dont need to be so big, they are very pretty but have vast areas of unused space thats seams just there to stoke the egos of the devs in making pretty things, not actually playable content.
same thing here
Can you PLEASE stop.
First, Because of all the nerfs already I’ve basically finished all the content in less than a week.
With the exception of a few more masteries. Don’t ask for easier mobs or easier events, learn your class, learn how to move, stop ruining the game for higher skilled players. Run in a group if you really need too. Join a guild, do ANYTHING just stop asking that this gets easier.
Second, stop running your mentor tag and your commander tags if you dont know what you are doing. I just did Dragons Stand with 5 other commanders that had no idea what to do and attacked the invincible spitfire for roughly 5 minutes. While the people onmy tag laughed and did the escort.
Third, Yes, i agree. HoT is difficult. But where is the fun in something you can solo? or rush through? In HoT (not including tyria) Im already 40+ just playing running around with guildies.
ifyou have that progress you are obsessed and addicted, so go get help.
But I’m honestly really not enjoying GW2 right now. I’m trying to stick it out to see if it gets better, but if it does not, I may just drop it. If Anet want to take the game this direction, thats their call, I’ll just find somethign more to my liking.
Maybe stupid question, but why not just run past mob packs you dont want to fight?
you cant. Most have some form of blink attack, or slow, or teleport you back…..
Megaservers are currently broken:
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/heads-up-iteration-incoming/
I didn’t see anything about a fix in the last patch so I assume they are still working on a solution.
They said they had a fix along with teh HP change, as thats live I assumed the mega server fix was also in.
But does not appear to be working.
Or people are working?
thats why there are mega servers. should be grouping people on the same maps. So unless there are less than 150 people playing the zone right now……
Inform yourself before you post. They put out an address to the community saying they know that the numbers for the amount of people in the maguuma map settings is too low and that they are going to adjust it.
Also, hero point costs for elites are going to be lessened to 250.
Also, some adventures will be available more often instead of locked behind some events.
It helps to look for answers to your problems before you just spout them at the internet.
Yes, and as the hero point changes are live then I assumed the mega server changes were also.
How about you not be an kitten . try that for a change.
Anet: Hey look people are enjoying something, what should we do? Can we gate it? no….ok lets nerf the kitten out of it.
change sucks kitten .
nothing else to say.