im decent i adapt but all is vain.
Don’t blame others cause you’re bad and can’t get a decent team to win.
Nobody is forcing you to do ap so whatever you do it’s your own decision.
Solo Q is another different thing, it’s pure luck.
Skyhammer is fine, remove Spirit Watch
wut
honestly, I feel sb is very close to main weapon viability.
Personally I feel that these few changes would make it viable without making it OP.
-double the speed of cluster bomb
-increase the damage of the stealth shot (instead of criting for 1.3k let it crit for around 3-4k with full zerker)
-let the #5 skill put you into stealth for 3 seconds.
LOL
Every single one of ur points are beyond OP.
omg the last one really got me.
btw SB is fine imo, the incoming nerf is reasonable.
1.- in 1vs1 is OP, in teamfights is fine.
2.- lol.
3.-Agree.
4.-Agree.
5.-Agree, lyssa too strong.
6.- A thief who isn’t evading or getting stealth is a dead thief.
7.-Agree, ele burst is insane, but need huge buffs to their survivability and diversity to nerf it.
I want to know what nerfs are you expecting for thieves? Because they have nerfed us pretty much since release.
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.
I’m a teef and lyssa is too strong with venom I won’t mind if they nerf it, but as a warrior u gotta be kidding me, cuz there isnt any reason why warriors would depend on lyssa.
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I have a similar problem.
But this is pure lag nothing else, sometimes it happens it’s like 3 sec of pure lag spike.
Btw I’m using wtfast and still…
I have to do the dailies, I am ranked 34 EU in achievements and intend to keep my rank or even improve it. I dont understand why we are forced into playing tournaments with random people.
Again dude, you aren’t being forced to do anything you don’t want to do.
You don’t have to do dailies, there isn’t anyone telling you to do them or die.
From what I’ve read, you wanna do dailies to maintain your rank, then you have to do a decision, keep doing SoloQ for your selfish wish or stop doing them and get fun.
But I repeat, nobody is forcing you to do SoloQ, it’s up to you.
And again….
People if you don’t like SoloQ don’t do it.
Don’t do dailies, I don’t and I’m happy.
Or an eles condi burst while being able to heal like no tomorrow.
WUT
switch to water theres the first heal. Hit 5 2nd heal. Hit 2 thats 3rd heal now dodge for 4th heal. You will be at full hp and have removed 3 condis. Switch to earth churn then flash to em hit 3 switch to fire drake breath ring then back to earth rinse and repeat. If they dodge just keep repeating. Condi builds require no brain usage except for the rotation. Find rotation and repeat till target dyes.
You dont even have to pop your heal most the time but if you do most condi eles ether renewal. And you can easily go to air hit 3 and pop heal for a safe heal.Your drakes breath does 7k over 3 seconds loldmg. You didnt even have to stack might for this btw. datbalance right?
Dude are you really serious? cuz there isn’t any condi ele in this game lol.
Or an eles condi burst while being able to heal like no tomorrow.
WUT
http://www.twitch.tv/narcarsis
http://www.twitch.tv/magictoker
These two are good thieves who stream often.
They are off, though you can watch the past broadcasts.
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Dat boss kill gave me chills!
Good thieves yes, bad ones no…
This.
Class : teef
1) one shot eles
2) condi engi
3) necrosEles shouldn’t be on your list as thief… dodge burst they unload and you win lol
I know most eles are dumb and easy, but one day I encountered a wild ele who killed me in 0.5 sec.
So that’s why I put “one shot eles” not eles.
I repeat, I didn’t even see what thing killed me, it was like I was running to decap far I see the ele coming (1200 range aprox) I avoid him(worst decision of my life) then I’m dead.
The good thing it’s I know how to deal with them now.
Class : teef
1) one shot eles
2) condi engi
3) necros
Last time? it would be tonight when Lys one shotted me two times in 0.5 secs.
Eles hit kitten hard.
If we talk about the best runner but also best dueling teef, I’d say Sizer.
If we talk about good teamplay and most useful, I’d say Toker.
If we talk about strategy, smart moves and the hottest teef, I’d say Caed.
If we talk about spamming evades and skills, I’d say Jumper.
I love trap tangers, one of the funniest builds to play.
Nice video Sol.
lol…
Thiefs are build for burst, not to stand on point and hold it….
you got a point too ik.
My humble advice, choose whatever you want, while you’re good you will always have the advantage.
It’s not Anet’s fault(at least not all).
It’s just average engis are better than average thieves.
It’s ANet’s fault. I’m not defending thieves because they are the most broken class in the game, but I’m going to assume that most if not all of those engineers mentioned by OP are running the [Grenade Kit]. The thing about [Grenade Kit] is that there is no risk to literally throwing the entire kit onto a point or even beneath one’s own feet. Because we’re forced to play conquest, this sort of set-up outclasses the thief which is generally weak to AoE and also specializes in single-target DPS. Three Engineers will win a lot of matches because of [Grenade Kit]‘s ability to simply pollute points very quickly with damage, conditions and instant-activation passive procs. It’s a bad design and the fault lies with ANet.
Well ya, you a point there.
Or let us trade tournament chest for mystic coffers.
Good idea mate.
like 5×1.
PvE, PvP, Spvp, Tpvp, WvW…..really? With the anocronyms. When anet focuses on one area, that change to skills will effect all the rest.
No dude, stop making excuses cause you’re bad, go and do tournies see how thieves deal without perma-steath, then come back and say sorry to us.
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All I’m reading in every single post is Stealth this and stealth that. And if that’s all a thief is good for, then your good for nothing else.
In general group play beside being an excellent partner to those who drop combo fields this is rather close to the truth. Speaking honestly how is this our fault? That is the design of the class. Everything else is general DPS (A role fulfilled by any class). I think many thieves at this point are rolling with the punches and trying to keep what they invested in relevant vs quitting.
You see right there, “excellent partner”. They’re bringing something to the group, I can understand that. But if the only build is going to be “you perma-stealthed, if not GTFO”, then that’s not OP. That’s everyone expecting only ONE type of play from the thief, and if the only thing everyone is going to run, then yah, your going to get nerfed. Expect it. It’s not an IF, it’s a WHEN.
Let’s use for an example a pretend World Event. We’ll call this event, Wild Magic. This particular wild magic, on a daily basis will lock one, or more skills from your bar, and it’s Skill specific.
What do you have besides Perma-Stealth, to deal with that? All I’m going to see is a bunch of kittening and complaining that the person in question couldn’t keep fully stealthed, and didn’t have any other build/choices to fall back on.
What does a thief fall back on, when it can’t perma-stealth? Variety is the spice of life. What variety do you have, that would focus attention onto something…different.
You MUST go to tpvp and see how thieves deal without stealth.
Not spvp go to TPVP, do tournies and see how thieves play.
They need improve hot joins before they make a rank entry.
So people will actually learn in hot joins and when they get the neccesary rank to join tournaments, the games will be more enjoyable.
I can steal gold, I’m the best teef worldwide.
Sorry for being so op, please leave your message in the box we’ll call you if we become less op.
please, anything anything but these worthless chests.
omg, why does this post have no commentary?
First time I watch a video of a good thief roaming in WvW, really good moves dude keep going! Hope you upload more videos.
I really loved you kittening sword.
Yup, trickery is almost a must in NA at least.
EU is still in S/D acro.
And it isn’t op, it’s just good.
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thats nothing man, stop crying.
I wanna see u against 3 mesmer and 2 mm necros.
I dare you.
It’s not Anet’s fault(at least not all).
It’s just average engis are better than average thieves.
kitten, All this time I thought the asuras were minions.
I’ve got a better idea :
Remove warriors.
LS changes are awful, Jumper you won’t spam it anymore just deal with it.
Despite it, the other changes are fine.
I only press 5 and 2 and I can kill anything.
Too op.
pliz nerf.
Why trickery? cuz we’re thieves and we need tricks.
OMG give him an oscar!! He deserves it!
30/30/0/0/10
S/D, D/P, D/D(any + SB)
full zerker gear.
4 signets, elite venom.
But I’m telling you this build is only for real men.
Don’t wanna be a kitten but I’ve said this before, WvW level is too kitten low.
Which automatically means everyone who’s running around in WvW is a noob. At least that’s what you’re implying.
I don’t saying he’s bad or good, I’m saying anyone can make a video and show us kills.
The difference is, “anyone” can show us kills against upleveled and/or new/bad players. However, he is showing us kills against people who clearly know what they’re doing, and also against groups of players which isn’t that easy either if you’re alone, even if they aren’t that skilled.
First, yes I think not all but most people in WvW don’t know about pvp in this game.
Second, he killed a longbow hammer warrior with d/d, that will never happen against a good hambow warrior.
Don’t wanna be a kitten but I’ve said this before, WvW level is too kitten low.
I don’t saying he’s bad or good, I’m saying anyone can make a video and show us kills.
But yeah, thank you for all your effort to make the video, I’ve seen some of your videos and they’re great.
WvW condi warrior : 32k hp, 3.4k armor, 2000 condi damage, 400 hps.
But it’s not op.
This game doesn’t need more passives please.
easy animation for an easy class.
Because thief is a really hard class to play right?
That’s why all you see in obsidian sanctum are thieves and PU mesmers, because clearly they are the most difficult classes to play and perform well with.
I’m not saying thief is hard to play, I’m just saying warrior skills are pretty simple to use and watch, that’s all.
easy animation for an easy class.
I don’t to be a kitten, but WvW level is so kitten bad.
In my opinion ur build doesn’t work at all, 10 in SA is a waste of points, better to get 30 in acro and trickery + 10 in da for mug, I sometimes use it in tpvp and it’s viable.
And I don’t know why so many thieves are still crying about the nerf to s/d, ya it’s was totally unnecessary, but it’s still viable, d/p is still the strongest set though.
Totally agree, I think exactly the same and it is a bit weird lol, maybe because I’m a thief as well.
Anyway in Team Q, you can overcome cheese teams with skill IMO.