Guild Wars 2

I’m a Guardian dps. i kill almost all the thief that I find. Some thief’s hard to kill, ok, but I kill them. They’re hard to use against an enemy that use AoE or that use stun. I use my defensive/healing skills to block the first assault, then use the 5 of the GS, taking them near me, 2 of the GS and the thief has 1/2 or less hp. Then it’s only the ability of the player, but frequently the thief is death in 3-4 hit. Frequently go in hide and run away XD

About the necro I’m ok whit you, the same for ranger and engi.
About engi, have you ever try to fight a engi bunker/condition build? it’s unkillable. Too much resistance, whit a good damage, ranged, AoE knock back, quick skills, confusion ‘till 9 stack in 2 sec… and they can auto ress… it’s a OP build XD

About warrior, that’s not the more powerful build of the moment, but yes, a war whit mace+shield can use 1 stun of 1 sec, un daze of 1 sec and a mace stun of 3 sec, whit a autoclean of 3 conditions. That’s a perfect combination for a bunker build. Whit banners that give regeneration and a lot of stun and 4 sec of block and an auto invulnerability to direct damage at 25% of hp, only a condition dealer can kill them “easy”. Anyway a mace build warrior can be killed for the lack of damage, expecially compared whit war whit GS or sword.
And if you have stability the war is F******.

Yes, the guardian can survive a little more than other tanks. But if you need to hold a place and an enemy come to you, what do you do? I’ve killed so many bunker guardian in 1vs1 hit no problems. Try to kill easy a necro bunker. If you’re not the right class, the necro will kill you whitout problems.
Now, you prefer a bunker that die or a bunker that kill your enemy whitout help?
I play berserker buardian in tspvp like a base holder and in 1vs1 there’s only some classes that can kill me and if the enemy isn’t good I kill it easy. That’s why my friend prefer to keep me in they’re party and don’t want a guardian bunker that can only ask help any time there’s an enemy and need to be rescued every moment.
Pick up a half bunker in party to help the team to resist at the middle point and use the berserker to defend the base point. The berserker don’t survive longer than a iper bunker, but the berserker can kill your enemy whitout your help.
Survive a little longer and die or obtain the power to kill the enemy that come to steal your point?
That’s why in time i find some teams that don’t has guardian but necro, warrior or engi bunker.
P.s. the engi bunker survive longer than a guardian and deal 3 times the damage, at range and has combo fielsds, condition damage and mass knock back ability. but only if the engi know how to play, te guardian is more easy to play.

Isn’t a good skill for AH. for AH is better a shout, combined to the evveft of healing of Ah and clean conditions by master trait and soldier rune.
And 10% of damage reduction isn’t all that good damage reduction… Whit the trait you can “power up” it at 12 if you want, but isn’t all that great thing…
Actually, I’ve not a single guardian in pvp or pve use a signet. in dungeon you can use it to reduce damage, in combination whit the potion. Whit that you obtain 18% of damage reduction, but out of that there’s more useful skills.
You can use the signet that give power to increase your damage, why you don’t need specific utility skill to play.

Actually, the signet build of the guardian isn’t a good build.

Whit the last updates and fix, the guardian’s not the best bunker. it can live a little longer than other classes, but engi, necro, ele and warrior bunker can kill. A guardian can’t kill anyone. It’s only longer to kill, nothing more.
I’ve a excellent warrior bunker/banner that survive more than a guardian, has a very good CC skill and stun, has a good ranged weapon and deal damage.
And I’ve an excellent DPS Guardian.

If you want, you can go DPS.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQNAR8dlUgiDnGyNEf4Eh1j/JQ/VVIeXPgYEbIA-T0Ag0CnIQShkDJDSSksINsYZxujjFPLA

Huge damage, good survavibility (every meditation give you 1800-1900hp), condition removers and can move good whit the 3 of the GS and the 2 of the sword.
It’s a hard build to use, but if you learn how to use it you can do high damage and survive.
You must use the healing skill to block enemy attacks, the same for the 5 of the focus and active your virtue then use the elite to reobtain and be invulnerable for 3 sec.

It’s a little vulnerable against conditions and it’s a build more for 1vs1 than for 5vs5, but if you defend the base you will fight 1/2 enemy at time, not all the enemy team, ad that build work good. Or you can go steal the enemy base.

Whit that build I can kill thief, warrior, ele, mesmer, guardian and sometime ranger. it’s hard kill a engi or a necro whit this build, or a ranger in full condition sword/dagger.

Try it.

I use a Berserker build for guardian an it’s very effective, expecially in TsPvP, where you can find more 1vs1 fights.
I can kill mesmer, warrior, guardian, thief, ele, some engi and some ranger. Sometime I kill a necro, but it’s hard.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQNAR8dlUgiDnGyNEf4Eh1j/FQ/VVIeXPgYEbIA-T0Ag0CnIQShkDJDSSksINsYZxujjFPLA

Whit that build you can deal very high damage and heal yourself whit meditations. Ad you don’t use boons. Whit that some enemy skills don’t affect you, like mesmer’s and necro’s skills that convert boons into conditions. And you’ve 2 breakstun.
I use that build and whit a lot of practice you can kill a very high number of enemy in 1vs1 and do a great job in team work, giving very high damage.

You must learn when dodge and how to use the heal skill to heal and Block enemy attacks, while use Renewed Focus to evade attacks and recharge your virtues and how use the skill 5 of the focus to protect from attacks and deal damage.

That’s one of the best DPS build I’ve ver try. High burst damage and good survavibility. Each meditation provide you 1800-1900 hp and your enemy fall down quickly.

Try it :-)

P.s. sorry for my bad english.

I can give you my TsPvP Build.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQNAR8dlUgiDnGyNEf4Eh1j/JQ/VVIeXPgYEbIA-ToAg0EIpQyhkBJJSWkGWssY3B
It’s a berserker build, pure Meditation build.
Whit that build I can kill: warrior, mesmer, ele, thief, other guardians, some engi spec and some ranger spec.
You must learn how to use it because at the begin you die quickly. Then you learn how to use the healing skill to protect you, while use the meditations, etc.
That’s the best DPS build I’ve ever try for pvp, expecially for tournaments.

Whit the GS you’ve some CC skills and mobility, high aoe damage (skill 2) and a signet to do combinations (4+3 and you obtain 4-5 sec of retalation and blind your enemy at distance). Then while you need to fight thief or necro you swap in sword+ocus to block enemy attacks whit 5 and blind them whit 4 and 2, obtain mobility and block proyectiles whit 3, giving them high damage. Whit 4 of focus you blind the enemy and clean conditions from you, it’s a very good skill.

pro:
-very high damage
-heal 1900 hp whit every meditation skill
-high mobility
-good block and blind skills

con:
-low hp
-low defence
-you must be quickly to kill enemy that use conditions or they kill you easy
-no ranged weapons

You only need time to learn how to use that class in wvsw.
Frequently is better use a bunker/healing guardian, because our damage is low than the damage of the other classes. But we can give useful buffs like stability+retalation, use Wall of reflect to stryke back the enemy while they attack your group or the door of the towers/garrison/etc. You can try to build up a symbol strategy to heal allies whit mace + sylbol more larder, increase the duration and make them heal ally. Whit symbol + Altruistic Healing you will never die and help ally to don’t die.
Then, staff is useful to give swiftness (in wvsw is excellent to increase the group mobility), to give might and to stop enemy attacks or retreat whit the skill 5.

in wvsw always win the ranged classes, like ele, engi, ranger, necro, the classes that do AoE (ele and necro) or the classes whit extremely high survavibility like thief (whit hide a thief can flee if it’s necessary. Hit and flee, that’s good).
A guardian can try to increase the survavibility of the group, no more. In wvsw a guardian is a excellent supporter, but a bad DPS.
That’s because of the useless ranged weapons we have. Staff can hit multiple targets but it’s damage is very low. Scepter is… the worst pvp ranged weapon ever, expecially in wvsw, where the enemy can move freely in a very large space and evade easly all your attacks.

You can play your guardian whit that build, in a zerg you can deal high damage if you go in melee to your enemy and you’ve a good survavibility, but all the other classes can give more damage than you or more easly.

P.s. sorry for my very bad english XD

I’ve try a bunker build for Warrior. In cleric armor I’ve 22k hp and I regen 1000-1200 hp at second. Whit a non-stop regen. Whit the banner that give regeneration, I’ve always regen. 4 stack sec of regen every second.
Cleric build, the right traits, dolyak rune and the sigil that give regeneration.
I can resist a ele for 20+ seconds just standing there, whitout use skills. And I give good boons to the party by using my banners.
Infinite Regen for everyone, guys!!!!

Now… compared to a Guardian that need to use a skill of 1 sec of esecution that last 4 sec and has 8 sec of cooldown, whit a limited range… you can upgrade it’s range and duration, but you can be blocked during the execution of the skill, and you must use always that skill or you have not the regen.
Then, warrior have a infinite regen whit a more larger radius and whitout use skill, for the duration of 90 sec. The banner, whit the trait, recharge in 96 sec… then you’ve a permanent regen whitout problem.

Then you can use a mace+shield to defend and live well against 2 enemy.
And whit the mace+shield build you can stun your enemy for 3+1+1 sec and block every attacks for 4 sec.

I can’t do that whit my guardian…

Mesmer isn’t a underpowered class. It’s a class that now can’t be played whitout know how to play it. I’ve see a large number of excellent mesmer. Mesmer can evade, hide, deal 7-9k damage in one skill (shatter), transform the enemy into a moa (I hate that skill!!!!!!), steal buffs and give conditions, transform enemy buffs into conditions, etc.
it’s not the worst class of the game.
Try to use a guardian and win a gainst a good mesmer…

Mesmer is just a little like all the other classes. Now you can’t survive against 2 enemy, like almost all the other classes. Now you need to know how to play that class and when go in melee and when stay at range, or flee.

At the end there’s only one thing I can say abount the new difficult to play as a mesmer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of1bVlo_5Y4&hd=1

Ok, the Mesmer isn’t one of the Condition Damage Dealer, but ehi, it’s not the worst class in the game. A good mesmer can kill necro, ele, war, guardian, ranger. Whit the shatter build you can di very high damage in one skill.
I don’t play so much tournaments and I’m only rank 28, but ehi, when my friends need to log in a good dps they log in theyr’re mesmer pg. High damage, high attack evasion, invisibility, moa transformation, transform enemy boons in debuffs and transform allies conditions in boons…
It’s good to dps, support and high survavibility.
I think it can be placed in Rank A, not a low position than A.

I’ve see players kill alone 3 other players, so many time in thies game. First the ele (now nerfed) then thief (if you play well, you can do great things) and now necros. obliviously, win in 1vs8 is impossible. If you lose in 8vs1 you’r a goup of very very noob players. A noob of over 9000 level!
In 1vs1 I can highly reduce the hp of a necro, but I’m a guardian and I can’t kill a necro. But whit a friend I can kill easy a necro.
One time I’ve killed 2 thief at once, and another time 2 war at once (in tspvp) but no more time I’ve win against 2 players.
Ok, necro’s the Op class of the moment, but ehy, if you can’t kill it isn’t only because of the class. If you die try another build. I can’t play whitout condition remover, because now every class I find play condition damage. Because of that I’ve 2 utility on 3 to remove conditions, and use field combinations to do it at free.

If you play a class like ele in berserker whitout condition removers and you die against a necro every time, try to add skills that clean conditions and try again.

I play Guardian because I love the sword skills. Useless, but funny XD
And I love heavy armored class. But i Hate the Warrior. Then… Guardian! :-D

Anyway, the Guardian is very good in pve, can be good like support/healer in wvsw but in spvp… it’s one of the worst class you can try.
That’s why in the new Tpvp team build the guardian can be easly replaced by a necro bunker. More healt (35k+15k DS), more healing (marks, wells and attacks), more CC.

if you’re a good bunker in spvp you can defend a spot, but not alone. Never alone. You must be whit another player, or you’re only a target to kill slowly, nothing more.
it’s a healer/support, more than a bunker.

A guardian full healing power can do a good work, expecially in dungeon. In wvsw if the enemy hit hard you can fall down quickly, whit your low healt, and your healing can be too slow to heal you well, but if you use a good strategy and don’t go in frontline all alone, you can do a good work. But for pvp I prefer Soldier, or a mix of Soldier and Cleric, to increase vitality.

Cleric and Guardian work well.
try to use the trait that make your symbol heal you and your ally, it work well. Symbol larger and healing for wvsw is very good, to help friends and give them boons. Virtue+Regeneration+Healing symbol+healing by give boons = immortality :-D

Ele can change attunement quicly and I’ve see more than one ele whit everytime active and passive regeneration up, using the duration of passive and active buffs to heal and reactivating it before it end just by changing it’s attunement.

Tome of XXX is the worst elite i’ve ever see on a bunker build. When nyou use it you lose all your weapon and utility skills, and that broke you game and you’re vulnerable to conditions, attacks and obtain a low effective skills for pvp. In dungeon you can use it, but I’ve never see a guardian use a Tome in tspvp. That’s because that skill in tspvp is useless. It’s a cibcunstantial skill, it’s good sometimes, but only sometimes. You can refull your and your ally hp in 5 sec, but you’re easy to be interrupted. Or in 5 sec of immobility, a good thief can kill you, or a warrior in berserker. (just why you don’t use a skill like that if you’re full hp, right?)

If you don’t use tomes, ele have more splash healing than guardian. and more effective. every 10 sec a ele can clean conditions and heal a large amount (2k or more) dodging, have different healing splash skills on the weapon and can create waterfield and combos, that guardina can’t do. For example, I love guardian whit sword+focus, but you can only use the skill 5 of the focus to do a combo, all the other skills don’t do a combo. only the GS give you a good ammount of combo skills. mace don’t give you combo skills, only a field, if you want it.

Guardian don’t use direct healing, only regenerative healing. Virtue, regen, Sygil healing and the low amount of healing when you give boons. That’s not a splash healing class. The dodge can heal, yes, but for a very small amount of hp.

Then a ele bunker that know how to use it’s class can resist longer than a guardian. I’ve a friend that in wvsw kill enemys in 1vs3/4. You can do it whit a bunker guardian?

Why are you worried about how effective Aegis is against 10-40 people? Can you kill 10-40 people with just an Ele?—-
I don’t say that you can kill 40 ppl whit a ele, I only say that block 1 attack while you’re attacked by 10-30 enemy is … useless.

At last, I’m not the best player ever, but ehi, I know how to use my guardian.
If you’re the best guardian of the world ok, you’re good and don’t die against 3 ppl, but for a normal player, guardian isn’t the best class ever.

If the problem si Guardian in berserker build (full berserker build, equip and trait) you’ve not the ability to give might when attack and you can’t heal giving boons to friend, you must use meditation to heal.
I’m not a big player of wvsw but I’ve never be the difference. Ok, whit aegis you can stop 1 attack… but how many enemy you’re fighting? 10? 40? ok, you block one enemy attack over… 50 in 1 sec on all your friends? That’s not a difference, that’s a single block. If you block an enemy skill that give a high damage ok, that can help, but only against that attack.

I’ve try the new map and I think is better for ranged class (whit all the spot where you can stay and fire from the high). But yes, a Guardian can do well.

I don’t say that guardian sucks, I only say: we’re not the best. We can do our work, but there’s a large number of class that can do it well.

Ele and engi can heal better than a guardian (ele has always 2 regen: active and passive, and it’s passive is better than the virtue).
Ele can survive and last longer than a guardian, whit splash healing, condition removal, movement skills and block skills. And a large number of buffs every time they change attunement.

Then if you play bunker your problem isn’t the condition.. for 5 sec? Because you run out of shout and virtue and you’re unable to kill anyone in that world. Expecially in tspvp, the guardian isn’t a good point keeper. I prefer a necro, a mesmer or a ele, that can defend and kill the enemy. Actually, a bunker guardian can only hope to die slowly.

Then if you speack abount a berserker build, you’ve not healing power. If you speack about a bunker, ok, you’ve healing power. A hybrid can obtain a lot of healing power.
But if you want to attack, your virtue heal you by 130 hp and that can’t do the difference between a 11k hp of a guardian an the 18k hp of a war (that have more dps ability and offensive buffs)

Everyone can say you that there’s a lot of good build, and that’s true. But the Guardian’s not the best class of the game. Expecially for PvP.
For PvE you can’t play as DPS. You’r healt is very low (like ele and thief) and in berserker build you’ve not all that ability to heal and evade damage like other classes. But you can output a very good dps. not the best of the game, but whit the GS you can hit like a warrior. But you’ve too low healt to survive like a warrior and you’re easy to be downed, expacially by some boss.
If you want to be useful in PvE you Must be the Tank-Support. High defence, healing symbols, shout everywhere. You can be the rock that a party need to kill a large number of boss, but you Must be a Tank. I’ve try to go in dungeon whit some DPS guardians, but they fall down easy.
If you want, you can try an Hybrid like Armor Soldier and weapons+trinket Knight, to increase your critical rate but obtain a good vitality.

In spvp, actually, you’re useless. If you want to play spvp (expecially tspvp) learn to use a necro bunker, a ele bunker, a engi or a mesmer, but you can’t do a good work whit a guardian. Too much condition damage. You’ve a very low pool of hp to fight a good player whit a condition build. (expecially necro, mesmer or ranger)

In wvsw you’re good to give swiftness, might and stability+retalation. But no more.

At last: there’s a lot of good build, but you can’t be the DPS of the group, because you’ve too low hp. You can play as tank, or supporter tank, or hybrid.

The tru problem whit condition removal: too much class that use conditions, too much conditions, too much frequently hit by a condition.
Frequently the problem Isn’t against a single enemy but the sinergy of condition applyer, fields and the number of the enemy that use conditions. How can you win whit a condition remove build against 2 enemy that use AoE that give conditions?

You’re whit your team. You fight in the… clock tower!… and you’ve 2 enemy that use necro. Ok: now explain how you hope to clean the conditions when they use graound AoE and skills like Epidemic to expand conditions to you and all your team? And don’t forget the dark and venom field of some necro or ranger or engi skills that can help enemy to give you more and more conditions whit simple ranged attacks or finishers.

The problem isn’t the 1vs1 condition applier/remover, the problem is the sinergy.

That’s a good build, but…. why use cleric for only 6+3 sec of regeneration? (if you use shout and virtue)
Isn’t better use Soldier equip?

I’ve always used the signet, but Shelter has 2 good point:
1) Block the enemy attacks for 2 sec (you can use it to heal and block enemy attacks like 1000blades of the war or other high damage skills like Thief’s skills)
2) The enemy can’t interrupt your heal. frequently in a fight enemy can knock you down or back, fear you, daze, or other things. If you use the signet you can be Interrupted, but whit shelter you start to block enemy attack then heal.
That’s why I use shelter. It’s good not only to heal but to defend and block enemy attacks.

The build is good, It’s like my Hybrid build of some weeks ago. It work good to clean conditions. But I use Purging Flames and don’t use Retreat. It clean 5 conditions in 5 seconds, burn the enemy and give you a field to obtain Flame Armor to burn the enemy, if you use GS, or a flame burst whit the 2 of the Hammer.

But using that build you sacrifice defence to clean conditions. It’s good against a thief, a mesmer or a bow equipped warrior. But against a necro or a engi whit conditions it’s not the thing that make you win. They give you conditions all the way, you can’t clean it all.

I’ll try something :-)

Thx all for the builds!!!

Renewed Focus isn’t a Invulernability skill. You evade all attacks, but if you’ve condition damage on you, you suffer damage. At last, it’s better the 5 of the war shield, because block every attacks and has a lower recharge and can reflect projectiles (trait).
Frequently while I try to survive using Renewed Focus I die ’cause of the conditions before i can use my virtue to clean conditions on me (trait).

At last, war has more invulnerability to damage than a Guardian.
Guardian use the shield to protect ally and knock back enemy, but you can elude it using stability and melee attacks, unblockable attacks or skills to make your attacks unblockable.

p.s. sorry for my bad english

Hi all.
I need to know how you play guardian in spvp/tspvp, because I really don’t do good.
I’ve try a DPS build before the last patch. I’m able to kill any DPS class. But now there’s not direct damage class. Everyone use Condition Damage, then my build is a waste of time. i use Meditations to heal and cure conditions, but I don’t cure, I Convert conditions. Then my enemy convert my boons in conditions… and I’m F**** .
I’ve try a support build, but I’m useless because I die quickly and don’t do damage, and 4 sec of protection don’t change the fight, or 5 sec of stability (more useful, but not the best skill in the world).
Then I’ve try a bunker. I’m useless because the enemy hit me easy and don’t need to defend because my dps is too low to cause trouble to my enemy. I only die slowly, but if they use condition damage (expecially poison) I’m F**** again because of my low hp. (20k in Soldier isn’t good!).
I can chose to give a lot of damage and die in 10 sec or to don’t do damage and die in 20 sec…

Then…. how can I play that kitten ed class in tspvp whitout be useless????

(P.s. Sorry for my bad english)

You can use it to increase the damage of the ally and your and heal yourself for a good amount of hp.
I use it then swap GS ant hit the enemy. In dungeon is good because increase your damage (whit 12 stack of might you damage’s good).
You can use it to heal yourself and power up your offensive ability. You Must combine the effect of your staff and the power of your weapons.
If you need heal, use it to heal, if you need a damage boost, use it to increase your damage.

I play berserker Guardian, DPS version. Before update I was good to kill a large number of classes, but now I can’t use it well in tspvp because of the too much high condition damage of some classes.
I’ve 14k hp and 2600 armor, whit meditation that cure 1900 hp each time.
Ok, necro’s can deal me 7k damage in 3 sec whit condition damage and wells. Ad they’ve 22k hp or more and high defence. Then how can I kill them if I die in 8 sec?
if I use my skills to convert conditions in buff, they re-convert my buff in conditions and that’s not good for me XD
That’s why I actually can’t kill necro, engi, condition thief and some other classes that use condition damage.

I want a Main hand shield
Double Shield!

I play Tspvp, and I use Renewed Focus, but not why it’s a good Elite, only why it’s the Only elite that I can play in Spvp. I can’t play tomes because I need my utility to heal, to clean conditions and my weapon skills to gain mobility and good CC skills (like 5 of GS) or defensive/offensive skills (like 5 of the focus).
Yes, I’ve find some situations to use a tome, but that’s not in spvp.
Other classes has elite that’s good for pve, dungeon, wvsw or spvp. Mesmer has Time Warp (or wrap if you’re hungry) for pve, dungeon and spvp, and Moa form for pvp.
Thief has thief guild for pve, wvsw or dungeon, and Dagger Storm and Basilisk Venom for pvp.

There’s more example of good elite for different kind of situation in only one class.
Tome’s not a versatile elite, it’s only a situationary elite, and Renewed Focus isn’t good for spvp.

I’ve killed any Thief I’ve find on my way. Whyt my Guardian, I can kill them easy. I’ve a Berserker build and some skill to defend from it’s first attack. Then I grab them whit 5 of the GS, use the 2 and theu’re life is below 50%. Then if they stay close to me to try to kill me I can switch in sword+focus and kill them so easy.
I’ve find only one thief that is able to kill me, because it’s a very good player, find in Tspvp one day ago.
All the other thief… die XD

(sorry for my bad english)

Yesterday, kitten my friends, in Tspvp, we’ve find a team of rank 15-25 players. 4 Necro and 1 Ranger. We’ve a team well organized. 2 Guardian, Mesmer, Engi, Thief. I’m rank 25, but my friend’s rank 40-45, not the first noob on the square.
Then, we’ve lost 500 to 140. How can you fight an enemy that need only to give you all the condition in one skill and flee waiting your death? We’ve removal, yes, but try to fight 2 necro that swap conditions to the entire group and give conditions all the way. And now they can give Torment and Burn.
i’m a Guardna Berserker, I can kill by myself mesmers, warriors, thief, guardian, ele and some engi spec. before the update i’ve been able to kill some necros but now I’m useless against a Necro. Too much conditions. Too low healt.
You can say “you’re berserker, you’ve not healt”. Yeah, and because of that I’ve try to use another spec: removal spec. I’ve equipped 2 shout, puruty and set the virtue that cure 3 conditions. Well, It’s useless. They win. You can’t fight a necro using a guardian. You can’t fight a Condition spec by using a Guardian.

The necro use it’s signet to give me all the conditions. I use Purity, they use the skill to transform all boon in condition. I use all my skills to cancel the Conditions. I’m whitout utility and virtue, and the enemy can give me more and more conditions by weapon skills and the 3° not used utility or the elite. Or use fear and kill me whit damage of 2k every hit.

now.. how can I defeat a Necro??

To who say “you must change your build to fight the new necro’s power”: What? O.o
I’ve played a lot a build tat give me the ability to cure conditions all the possible ways (I’m Guardian). But yeah, necros kill me easy.
They use the sigil to give me all the conditions and do a crit. Then I’ve all the condition for all the time of this word. Then I active Purity. Yeah, I’ve all the buffs of this game at once! BUT they use the ability to transform all my boon in condition. kitten! Ok, but I’ve shout and virue! I cure 7 conditions. and have a lot of buffs. Then the necro do the 5 skill of the focus and give me awy 3 boons, and I take a large amount of damage. Then it attack me easy whit scepter, giving me poison, cripple and bleed and I can’t defend myself from it. Then it’s only a question of time (and not a long time because I’ve a very very low hp because of my class) and I’m death.
Now I play a berserker build, whit I sometimes kill a necro. I can’t pretend to kill it because I cure my conditions but because I kill it before it’s conditions kill me. Then I go downed by the remaining conditions but I’ve try to kill it. But the necro have a very large amount of hp and isn’t a easy class to take down. And while I’m attacking, the necro’s not there taking my hit. He do fear, attack and evade. And there’s the situation where I’ve not all my skills ready to fight. Purity has a delay of 48 sec whit the trayt. In 48 sec I die 6 time by a necro debufs…

Now, I don’t say to nerf the necro, just: please, balance it.

(sorry for my bad english)

I like some use of the different Elite of the Guardian, but the other classes have more good elite skills.
-Warrior have the Standard, that save allies from the death in pve, wvw and spvp. In spvp, a war whit that warbanner can chance the situation of a fight and buff our allies whit Fury, Might and Stability!
- Elamentalist can summon big and bad elemens, that can heal, stun, inflict high damage or be hard to kill, and can be a tornado. Use the tornado elite in wvsw in the enemy zerg, or in spvp to keep a spot.
-Ranger can use Entangle to inflict very high damage if use a CD build 8until a 20k in 8 sec) and hold a large number of enemy at once. can use the spirit to heal and rise ally (good in pve, but not used), then can increase it’s power and the power of it’s pet for 20 sec whit every hit. (and 20 sec of stability is a very good buff)
-Necro can summon a hard to kill minion that inflict damage and knock down, transform into a mist or into a big and bad ligh. (not the best elite of the game, but good)
-Thief can transform you into a stone, spin around and reflect projectiles, or summon two bad and powerful thiefs to help!
-Engi can summon at once all the turrets, stun you and inflict area damage. I hate that elite, sometimes it’s very very powerfull, in pve and expecially in spvp.
-Mesmer can create a warp zone where all the players obtain quickness and last for 10 sec!!! And, if you’re not impressed, they can transforma you into a moa. I hate them when in spvp transforma me into a powerless moa.

Then the Guardian. He can summon a tome that heal the ally or a tome that damage the enemy whit a pretty aoe skill. Yes, two good elite, but frequently useless. And then you can be invulnerable for 3 sec and reobtain your virtue. 3 sec… and you’re not immortal, just invulnerable. Conditions give you damage while you’re Immune to attacks. And if you’ve not a Virtue based build it’s not a good elite. But it’s the only one that you can use in spvp, for example, because all the other elite’s useless. Time of casting or duration, or because you can’t use your basic and utility skills while you use it and your fight strategy go down.

And you can see: Warrior have Endure pain that is like Focused. Mesmer have the skill on the sword that make you miss all the attack while they’re casting it. Engi can evade all the attacks for 3 sec (eventually increased by trait) and lose all the conditions at 25% f hp (trait) and obtain the effect of the elixir at the same time (another trait), for a 6 sec of No Damage at 25% of hp. Elementalist can use mist form to be invulnerable. Ranger can be Immune to Damage for 6 sec and then transfer all the damage to it’s pet, for a 12 sec of immunity from direct damage.
AND all these classes can do action, or eventually fight (war and ranger) while Immune to your damage!

Guardian can be immune for 3 sec (4.5 whit a useless trait) but CAN’T MOVE OR DO ACTION while use this skill.

Ok. Good.

Now… I need a elite to fight in spvp. ANet, please, give me one.

(p.s. sorry for my bad english)

I’ve played before a large amount of defensive and hibryd Guardian build, but try it Berserker whit meditation and you can kill necro and mesmer as well.
When my friend say “try the berserker build of Guardian” I’ve laugh, but try it, it’s very good!

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUEQNAsdRlYgCCnFyvDg4Eh1DCGQ/VVIeYPwYG7IA-jAyAYMBRKSgILgZvioxWZLiGreBTdSEV7PKiWNA-e

I’ve build my Guardian in a Hybrid version.
Trait: 10-30-0-30-0
Equip: Armor Soldier – Weapon Knight – Trinket Knight
Weapons: sword+focus and staff/greatsword/hammer (in different kind of situaion and party).

Whit that build you can hit the 80-90% of critical rate (depend on sigils) and whit that deal a large amount of damage.
But whit the soldier armor you have a good hp pool. (18k, more or less)
And whit the shouts you’ve good buffs and condition remove skills.

It’s good in damage and don’t lose too much in defence.
You can use blind and block to evade a lot of enemy attacks and give a good damage.

That’s a pve/dungeon build. It work good in WvsWvsW, but you need to change the utility in Signet of Wrath to hold the enemy, Stand Your Ground to give mass stability and retalation (good against enemy that do AoE on your party from the walls) and Retreat to give a good mobility buff to your friends.

(p.s. sorry for my english)

Oh, I’ve read that you’re in Masterwork equipment, right?
It’s the green color…
Ok, try to be full Rare and then full Exotic, then we can speak about be a good pg for dungeons XD
It’s the true: you need a Rare equipment to obtain a good defence. Whit a masterwork equipment you’re not good for dungeons.
When you obtain a rare (or exotic) equipment, try again and see the difference :-)
(if you’ve not the money to buy a rare/exotic equip or the materials to craft it, ask to your guild members. A rare equipment is easy to buy and good to start to do istances)
(p.s. sorry again for my english XD)

It’s a good build. But on the Valor change the VII whit the IX to obtain more defence.
And what’s your armor stats? Your equipment level? (Are you full exotic or full rare or 50/50?)

how do you play the guardian?
What’s your build?
If you play a berserker build in dungeon, you can fall easy, but if you use a hybrid build or a defensive build you can easily survive in many dungeons.
I played with a guardian DPS and was always on the ground.
In addition to this, it depends on how good you are. But if you’ve reached the 80 you know a little how to play your class.
If you’re not a defensive, try a bunker sigil+heal class whit mace+shield/focus and staff or a hibryd whit greatsword and defensive traits and stats (es. armor pow tough vit or cleric).
(sorry for my bad english)

Yeah. all our build is just be… kittened by a thief skill.
And from now, you can see thief steal boons from every enemy like candy :-D
Every build based on boons has been destroyed by one single fix.

A guardian is a “Healing supporting mage-warrior”. Because of that reason ANet has chosen to give it a very low amount of HP.
This, however, preclude the possibility of creating a pure offensive Build. That’s why you can create Ele GC and Ele Tank but you can’t create a Guardian GC.
I believe that the guardian is the only class required to have a defensive build, because it does not have enough life for a offensive build.
You can try a hybrid defensive-offensive, but not more.
The offensive version may have a high level of attack, but you’ll never attack as strong as an elementalist or a thief, or it’s strong evasive-defensive skills. But you have the HP of an ele/thief class.

Mesmers have a good numbers of skills that give the the ability to clena conditions from itself. They have a skill that give to your enemy 3 of your conditions and give you 3 of the enemy buffs. And other skills that give them the ability to remove conditions. I’m a Guardian and all I can do against a mesmer is try to survive and hope in my team to join me in the kill. I’ve see in spvp a Mesmer kill 3 palyer all alone. Yeah, that’s not a normal situation, that player was a very good one. But I’ve never see a Guardian survive all alone against 2 enemy. Frequently a Guardian can’t kill a single enemy all alone, depending on the class XD I’ve also find some noob mesmer, inesperienced players that try the class, but a good mesmer is very very hard to kill. If I find a good mesmer or a good Ele I know that I can only try to survive.
The mesmer class isn’t OP, but… it’s very easy to play and extrememly effective in every it’s build. CC, CD, GC, Tank, all.
And hopes not to find two together XD
One time I’ve find in tournament a party of 3 mesmer and 2 thief, all of high level. Yeah, we’ve lost the match XD
A Mesmer is too difficult to hit for a Guardian and give too much damage. I can hope that you can overtake them by Condition damage, because if you try to kill them by direct damage you will die, no more.
(p.s. sorry for my very very bad english XD)

Ele have perma-buff, perma Regen+another Regen (by water trait), different very good healing skills,some excellent difensive earth skills and very good evasive and stun effect air skills. How can someone fight against a good ele and hope to win? Expecially for tank build ele.
I’m a Guardian and I can survive a lot against an Ele, but I win only against bad ele users. Against a good player that play an Ele class you can’t win. That’s all.
(p.s. sorry for my bad english XD)

You can spent 20 point to the trait Virtue and active the Major Trait number IX, that increase the passive effect of Virtue of Resolve, and grant to remove 3 condition when you active it. And, if you’re in a party, spent 30 point in Valor, active the Trait number XI to heal you when you give a buff to other players. If you play whit the staff whit the skill number 4 you give different stack of might in different times. If there’s ally near you to buff and you’ve a good Healing power you can recharge a very large amount of life in one single skill.
Regen+buff healing by staff+sigil heal skill = Immortal.
Try a build like that: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUEQNAW5elYgyC33xNEm4ESmCRCBxUURZ01DHKhYIA;T4AA1ymEMJZS1kiJKbM2IsxajzGpNjG2NA
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The thief have a high number of stealth skill because… it’s a Thief!
They’ve the high burst damage because it’s defence is low and it’s strategy is all to hit you from behind. If they don’t find your back they’re fu…ed. Dodge roll one or two time, evade one hit and the thief is ready for the death. Yes, if you don’t find the way to evade it’s fisrt attack they kill you, but if you evade one or two of the first powerfull attack, they’re f…d.
The bunker skill don’t make you invisible, but make you invulnerable. The guardian have a lot of skill that block the enemy, proiectiles and damage, heals and give buffs to allies. The thief can become invisible, but whit AoE skills you can hit them easy, if you want. In sPvP whit my warrior i hit them when they’re in hide by whit my hammer. They use the skill that create a clock of ivisibility in the area. I jump in the center, use the AoE that knowk back, smash the thief out the area of stealth and the thief is death. Or whit a Ele you can use some AoE to hit them in it’s stealth mode, the same whit ranger, Enginer, and all the other classes. All class hace some AoE skills.
The problem of the stealt is that: the enemy don’t see you, but the enemy can hit you. Whit the bunker skills of the guardian you can see them but you can’t deal damage. In that way, the Guardian is stronger than the thief, don’t you think?

Yes, the thief is a motherf…..er class, but the same is for other class. The invulnerable guardian or the clone maker mesmer, that create 6 clones/illusions/phantams, you lose the main target and hit all the clones before you find the real enemy. In that time the mesmer hit you hard whit phantoms and skills and before you find the real one he make a “boooooooommmm” and all the clones/illusions/phantasms explode in high damage.
Every class have a situation or a build that someone can call “OP”, but you can kill them whit the right build and gamestyle.

Example to kill a thief: be a guardian whit high defence and evade the first 2 thief’s attack. He miss to deal to you it’s powerfull damage and all that he can do is flee. But you block he’s way whit the staff skills, switch to the greatword and say “bye bye” to the thief. It’s easy, try it.

(p.s. sorry for my very bad english XD)

A good class in complexity and results is the Ranger in Trap+Condition Damage build. You have to do a strategy, place the traps in the right place and use it whit a precise order, use different strategy in different situations and always see the enemy position to place your traps and maximize your damage. It’s a dangerous build because if you don’t place your trap in the right way you can’t do all your damage and the enemy can kill you easy. High risk, but high damage if you find how to use it. You must play on the enemy, take them where you want and don’t make them move away from your traps. If you’ve success, the enemy can only die.
(P.s. sorry for my bad english XD)

The spirit weapon have a good efficence and have invulnerability, but they have a short period of duration. The sword last 30 sec, all the others only 20 sec. All the others pet/minion/illusion have a longer duration and more damage.
I’m playing a guardian after take a Ranger at liv 80 and try a Necro (and a mesmer, but just for try).
-Spirit weapons: Good effect, untargettable, but short duration.
-Ranger Pets: Powerful in damage, decence, duration and effect (but it is right because is one of it’s primary ability) and you can excange it if it’s death whit another full healt pet, unlimited time.
-Minions: Good power and good healt (some of them have a very good healt), large number of it (5 at the same time), capacity of recharge Nocromancer’s hp and different ufesul individual ability, very long duration time..
-Illusions: Good damage, high number of it (I’ve see 5 illusions at the same time), useful to distract your enemy (frequently to hit a mesmer i need to kill some of they’re illusions before find them), can hit, chill, remove boons and adsorb a lot of your damage, and you can sacrifice them to do different useful effects, last longer than a spirit sword.

Now… an hammer that give you low damage and sometimes put you down is really a OP skill?

P.s. sorry for my bad english.

I think the pvp is fun. I’ve try some games before, like Lineage 2, Rift an Aion, but that is the most funny pvp i’ve ever try. Because is more balanced than the others (but i know that some players don’t like that, they like “i’ve the biggest weapon = i’m a noob but i can easy smash your bones”). The equip can do the difference in WvWvW, but all the players’s at liv 80. It’s a good nesw for who can’t play every day.
Yes, the sPvP can be boring after some day of play, because of the low number of maps or variety of game, but there’s the WvWvW if you like to conquer or the mass pvp.
Someone is not happy about the WvWvW because they say “who have the biggest number of players in it’s party win” but, guys… in the other games there’s a different situation??? I’ve try different games but everywhere who have the biggest party/alliance win. And some times the war can be a chaos because of the big number of players. Why, in the other games is different? I’ve see some Lineage 2 wars where there’s 200 vs 200, and you can target your friend and attack them just for a wrong command on the keyboard. That war a very big chaos, not that wars XD
And in that wars you can attack different kinds of fortress, towers and supply transport/deposit.
If you’re waiting for the perfect war/pvp you can’t fin it in a online game, i’m sorry.
And about WoW or Rift… i’ve hear of wow and play Rift, but there’s a great problem of the classes, and there’s always a OP class that kill almost all the others, or a class that i unkillable. I’ve see some very ugly pvp/war in Rift (because of that I’ve play 3 mount and anfter I’ve spent my time on other games).

P.s. Sorry for my bad english XD

Have you try to do some pvp whit both the classes?
Whit the pvp system, you can try different weapon and build, and chose your favorite.
But if you don’t find an answer by that way…. flip a coin XD
(sorry for my bad english)